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Ha, true. They better hope Jose Martinez doesn’t fall on his face because it’s his presence that kept anything like Moustakas from happening. The league min is still a lot less than Moose got but there is no guarantee that Martinez isn’t J-Rod this seasonjagtrader wrote:If the Cardinals were convinced Moustakas could be a decent middle reliever, they would have signed him.
Momo wrote:I don't agree.MrCrowesGarden wrote:Teams are incentivized not to win.
This isn't to say that I don't think MLBPA didn't screw things up because they did.
Teams aren't incentivized to not win, they're incentivized to not spend.
Those might seem like similar claims, but I don't think they are.
Maybe we meant to sign Moustakas on a 2/15 deal but accidentally made a deal with Mikolas' agent instead. It's an easy mistake to make.jagtrader wrote:If the Cardinals were convinced Moustakas could be a decent middle reliever, they would have signed him.
I think Martinez is for real. I also don't think the Cardinals have a backup 3B and we're going to end up seeing a lot of Greg Garcia.Fat Strat wrote:Ha, true. They better hope Jose Martinez doesn’t fall on his face because it’s his presence that kept anything like Moustakas from happening. The league min is still a lot less than Moose got but there is no guarantee that Martinez isn’t J-Rod this seasonjagtrader wrote:If the Cardinals were convinced Moustakas could be a decent middle reliever, they would have signed him.
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Pretty much the exact issue. Which is kind of why I would say they're incentivized to not "spend." Because they can't spend without incurring some kind of penalties or at least accumulating towards penalties, and to boot, the players they can spend on are usually old and theoretically in their plateau or decline.tlombard wrote:They are incentivized to win cheaply with young, bargain priced prospects and international free agents that they are not allowed to pay a decent bonus to sign. If they think they can get 20 homers out of a combination of prospects that they can send up and down until one of them sticks for the league minimum then they aren't going to pay $10+M for a 30 year old veteran who might hit them 25 homers with the way the current CBA is written.
If they win great, bloggers will write about how well the front office scouted and trusted their talent. If they don't win then they are rebuilding through the draft looking to the future. They almost can't lose if they spin things correctly to the media that covers them and influences a good portion of their fan base.
What the hell is this lol? "Something called a"?MrCrowesGarden wrote:Momo wrote:I don't agree.MrCrowesGarden wrote:Teams are incentivized not to win.
This isn't to say that I don't think MLBPA didn't screw things up because they did.
Teams aren't incentivized to not win, they're incentivized to not spend.
Those might seem like similar claims, but I don't think they are.
I think they can be the same. I mean the Yankees are playing something called a Miguel Andujar at third base because the luxury tax is poison (the MLBPA does take a lot of blame for this). It's under the guise of competitive balance, but at least a third of teams want to lose and maybe a handful of others aren't trying super hard to win.
If you want another complaint that could be directed toward the MLBPA-- because I do sympathize with the Mooses of the world-- it's that these homegrown options look a lot less appealing if they're getting paid better.
I assume they're holding Munoz for a quick call-up if Jedd goes down.jagtrader wrote:I think Martinez is for real. I also don't think the Cardinals have a backup 3B and we're going to end up seeing a lot of Greg Garcia.Fat Strat wrote:Ha, true. They better hope Jose Martinez doesn’t fall on his face because it’s his presence that kept anything like Moustakas from happening. The league min is still a lot less than Moose got but there is no guarantee that Martinez isn’t J-Rod this seasonjagtrader wrote:If the Cardinals were convinced Moustakas could be a decent middle reliever, they would have signed him.
Sure, there's value in a marginal win upgrade, but does it really make sense for them to upgrade that slot?MrCrowesGarden wrote:The Yankees are one of the teams that are trying to win, but they still have some value in a marginal win because the Red Sox are close enough that either one could be division winners. It's not like the Astros taking a pass.
There should have been more teams in on Moose on a one-year deal. I'm not specifically blaming the Cardinals here, but they could've doubled that contract and I wouldn't have flinched.
Don't forget about Luke.Fat Strat wrote:Ha, true. They better hope Jose Martinez doesn’t fall on his face because it’s his presence that kept anything like Moustakas from happening. The league min is still a lot less than Moose got but there is no guarantee that Martinez isn’t J-Rod this seasonjagtrader wrote:If the Cardinals were convinced Moustakas could be a decent middle reliever, they would have signed him.