GatewayRedbirds.com

Freed Roger wrote:Is he done in Chi-town?

His contract is up at the end of the season and the team has gotten worse 3 years in a row. Right or wrong (I lean towards wrong), he's toast.

He's going to like Philly

ndistops wrote:

Freed Roger wrote:Is he done in Chi-town?

His contract is up at the end of the season and the team has gotten worse 3 years in a row. Right or wrong (I lean towards wrong), he's toast.

Crazy to think the manager at the helm for the end of the Drought may be gone 3 years later.

dan_yall wrote:I weirdly hope not. This Cubs core is a fairly likeable group. I need there to be an obnoxious jackass manager to fully fuel my Cub hate.

There is so much meat left on that bone. Maddon's douchery just obscured it.

Cards fans will have a hard time admitting this but having three to four core players injured in the last month or so would cripple any team.

Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Contreras all had some injury.

Theo doing his best Dombrowski impression signing awful pitchers like Chatwood and having aging pitchers finally hit a wall didn't help though.

Big Amoco Sign wrote:Cards fans will have a hard time admitting this but having three to four core players injured in the last month or so would cripple any team.

Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Contreras all had some injury.

Theo doing his best Dombrowski impression signing awful pitchers like Chatwood and having aging pitchers finally hit a wall didn't help though.

What's your stance on the [expletive] the Cubs theory?

Big Amoco Sign wrote:Cards fans will have a hard time admitting this but having three to four core players injured in the last month or so would cripple any team.

Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Contreras all had some injury.

Theo doing his best Dombrowski impression signing awful pitchers like Chatwood and having aging pitchers finally hit a wall didn't help though.

Bryant has 634 plate appearances this year

Rizzo has 607 plate appearances

Baez has 561 plate appearances


Injuries aren't the reason for the mediocrity. They have the second highest payroll in all of baseball, and tanked for several years to beef up the farm system. If they don't have the depth to overcome the types of bumps and bruises that every single team is dealing with this time of year, then that's somebody's fault. You have personally sung the praises of both Theo and Maddon all along. So whose fault is this? It has to be somebody's. They either lack depth, lack talent or lack leadership. Which is it? There's nowhere to hide here.

CardsofSTL wrote: What's your stance on the [expletive] the Cubs theory?

I agree with it.

Freed Roger wrote:

ndistops wrote:

Freed Roger wrote:Is he done in Chi-town?

His contract is up at the end of the season and the team has gotten worse 3 years in a row. Right or wrong (I lean towards wrong), he's toast.

Crazy to think the manager at the helm for the end of the Drought may be gone 3 years later.

It should be noted though that he tried his damndest to lose that series.

Socnorb11 wrote:
Injuries aren't the reason for the mediocrity. They have the second highest payroll in all of baseball, and tanked for several years to beef up the farm system. If they don't have the depth to overcome the types of bumps and bruises that every single team is dealing with this time of year, then that's somebody's fault. You have personally sung the praises of both Theo and Maddon all along. So whose fault is this? It has to be somebody's. They either lack depth, lack talent or lack leadership. Which is it? There's nowhere to hide here.

Mediocre? They have a better run differential than us. Kind of harsh and untrue. Imagine if the core was healthy! Just because we won the game of "variance" doesn't make them mediocre and us world-beaters.

Their depth was bad. Signing of Chatwood and Descalso can't be criticized enough. They were awful.

I never "sang praise" to Maddon. And I blame mostly him for their season downfall. But their good players were playing hurt. Cards fans have to admit this only helped us. It's not like we're just head over heels better (look at run differential again). All I'm saying.

RE: Theo, I think he did an okay job constructing a roster from a rebuilding standpoint. Tanking or not, he did what he knew would work. It got a ring. But a new challenge is here for him. Lately he's been Dombrowski-esque.