Update: HOLLIDAY A CARD 7yr/120 million, p178

[docellis]

only one with real boobs, but oldest.

[Oquendo11]

Rumor on another site is Holliday has agreed to a 7 year $119 M offer with an opt out clause.

If (I know big if) that is true what do you think?

I don't like player opt out clauses, but it is better than having him opt out right now by not signing with the Cardinals.

[doe_boy]

At this point, I'm comfortable with Doc speculating on real and fake boobs.

[jim]

If a guy gets paid $17M or whatever a year and is so good that when he hits 37 years old he can to better testing the open market, I say we got our moneys worth. Give him an opt-out if he wants it.

[Oquendo11]

The opt out may be as soon as after 3 years (age 33).

[TheoSqua]

a 3/51 deal for Holliday is a huge win for the Cardinals. With a contract like that the cards win either way. Either getting him for a prolonged deal at below market prices, or getting him on a short term deal during his prime for considerably less than a 3 year deal would normally cost. Considering the standard contract is backloaded and it may potentially be an even better deal.

[AdmiralKird]

a 3/51 deal for Holliday is a huge win for the Cardinals. With a contract like that the cards win either way. Either getting him for a prolonged deal at below market prices, or getting him on a short term deal during his prime for considerably less than a 3 year deal would normally cost. Considering the standard contract is backloaded and it may potentially be an even better deal.

I'm ignorant how draft situation works. Would we also get a compensation pick if he opted out of the fourth+ years?

[Oquendo11]

I'm ignorant how draft situation works. Would we also get a compensation pick if he opted out of the fourth+ years?

Under the current rules, the Cardinals would have to offer arbitration first, it would make sense for the Cardinals to offer arbitration if Holliday had a good enough season to think he can get a raise on the open market. But, who knows what the rules will be at that time?

[arnie.k]

based on what jim and theosqua said, and on what we expected keeping him would cost, i would say 7/119 is an excellent deal for the cards;

and assuming we also keep pujols for the length of this deal, i would say i'm optimistic about this coming decade

[Swatcat27]

this has been my thinking from day one...An opt-out clause for Holliday favors the Cards much more than Holliday himself... A 4 year deal at 17 mil is a great deal especially during the good years of his career...and doesn't tie the $$ in 8 years when we have to make a move on someone younger & enterprising.