2015 MLB Draft

[letsgocards89]

Interview with Correa about round 3 picks

http://www.stlsportspage.com/CARDSBASEB ... draft.aspx

[MrCrowesGarden]

Video of Denton's party when he got picked:

https://twitter.com/brycedenton25/statu ... 0971641856

[phins]

Stiff body?

You know how in scouting you will read, "athletic actions" or "loose body?" Those terms basically mean they move free and easy. They have a lot of natural flexibility and are quick in their movements. These types of individuals tend to be the ones that people see as "not trying hard enough" etc. because they make things look easy.

Bader is the type of individual who is maxed out physically. Those individuals tend to be more stiff in their movements, bulky, lack fluidity and flexibility. If given the choice, you want a guy who is loose and athletic over the guy who is tight. Think of a very muscular individual and the way they walk appears to be almost painful because they are wound so tight.

Bader isn't extremely gifted from a physicality standpoint and probably isn't getting any better than he is. There were much better "talents" available at that pick, but Bader is the type who outperforms his physical gifts with baseball skills. He's a plus runner, with a plus arm. He can play all three OF positions. He's never going to be a major league regular most likely, but is more of a Shane Robinson type. You need 4th OF'ers and guys who will sign quick and easy to go with the high end guys you take early/late (whichever your strategy is).

[lukethedrifter]

In NFL scouting reports you'll hear about a cornerback, linebacker or a DE having stiff hips.

[letsgocards89]

Stiff body?

You need 4th OF'ers and guys who will sign quick and easy to go with the high end guys you take early/late (whichever your strategy is).

Along these lines, in this VEB article, Correa's strategy in picking rounds 1-10 with regards to slot dollars/signability is questioned. It does look like he didn't leave himself many, if any, draftees who will sign for under slot, and has limited his ability to sign them all.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/cardinals-m ... teur-draft

[phins]

There is no way we could've signed all of the high school players we drafted, no matter if we had gone under-slot Senior signs all through the back half of the top-10 or not.

I've read the above write-up of the draft and one of the main reasons I stopped following Future Redbirds as much is because I disagree with a lot of what they say. For me, they tend to fall into the same trap that national journalists fall into of basically regurgitating their rankings for how they perceive everything. You took a guy I have rated highly in a spot similarly to how I rate them, that's a good pick. You took a guy I'm not high on in a spot much higher than I would have type analysis. Again, IMHO, that is severely misunderstanding the way the MLB draft works.

Correa has a completely different philosophy from Kantrovitz, it does appear, but each draft class is its own entity and has to be evaluated as such. Each year of your farm situation is different and needs to be evaluated as such. I think Red does a good job of researching players, reviewing their films, and putting out solid names to track. I really do. But, I think he's a little limited in scope of understanding the big picture, and tends to make decisions/judgments with quite a bit less information than he believes he does. Truth be told, I'm sure I do the same thing and don't even know it.

For me, kids taken in the top-9 rounds generally will have the number known that is required, and teams tend to know what their whole package is going to look like in the end. Brown isn't signing, but there's just as good of a chance that they felt like he wouldn't be there in the 11th round, or that another team with a large bonus pool that they're fairly familiar with may take him and actually sign him, and they wanted to prevent that *cough* Astros*cough*

I am going to put together a draft wrap-up post after July 17th, and we see how the pieces fit together, and try to make sense of the strategy, the execution, the reasons for the strategy, and, of course, the success of that strategy along with reviews of the players. I'm not naive/arrogant enough to believe anyone gives a bleep about my posts and whether I do that or not, I just say that to state I will expound further on my thoughts at that time.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

There is no way we could've signed all of the high school players we drafted, no matter if we had gone under-slot Senior signs all through the back half of the top-10 or not.

I've read the above write-up of the draft and one of the main reasons I stopped following Future Redbirds as much is because I disagree with a lot of what they say. For me, they tend to fall into the same trap that national journalists fall into of basically regurgitating their rankings for how they perceive everything. You took a guy I have rated highly in a spot similarly to how I rate them, that's a good pick. You took a guy I'm not high on in a spot much higher than I would have type analysis. Again, IMHO, that is severely misunderstanding the way the MLB draft works.

Correa has a completely different philosophy from Kantrovitz, it does appear, but each draft class is its own entity and has to be evaluated as such. Each year of your farm situation is different and needs to be evaluated as such. I think Red does a good job of researching players, reviewing their films, and putting out solid names to track. I really do. But, I think he's a little limited in scope of understanding the big picture, and tends to make decisions/judgments with quite a bit less information than he believes he does. Truth be told, I'm sure I do the same thing and don't even know it.

For me, kids taken in the top-9 rounds generally will have the number known that is required, and teams tend to know what their whole package is going to look like in the end. Brown isn't signing, but there's just as good of a chance that they felt like he wouldn't be there in the 11th round, or that another team with a large bonus pool that they're fairly familiar with may take him and actually sign him, and they wanted to prevent that *cough* Astros*cough*

I am going to put together a draft wrap-up post after July 17th, and we see how the pieces fit together, and try to make sense of the strategy, the execution, the reasons for the strategy, and, of course, the success of that strategy along with reviews of the players. I'm not naive/arrogant enough to believe anyone gives a bleep about my posts and whether I do that or not, I just say that to state I will expound further on my thoughts at that time.

I'm so glad you put that together because I've long wondered how people can praise/criticize a draft with so many moving pieces. Maybe with a first round pick you can say, OH WTF should have taken Porcello!!!! *bangs fist*, but when you get past the first couple rounds, it seems most people will only have a fraction - if that - of the information clubs have.

Getting past the lack of information, there are also the motives, understood deals, and financial considerations that each pick entails that no one really knows either.

How you can analyze something without the vast amount of information the clubs have is beyond me. That said, there are scenarios in which it's easy to criticize a club based on what little information is available.

[Jocephus]

I give a bleep about your posts

[MrCrowesGarden]

Paul Dejong has signed. No word yet about his bonus. Slot is basically 423K.

[Maclowery]

An old friend from Chicago messaged me out of nowhere, DeJong is her first cousin, though she's about 15 years older. The more you know.