GDT 4/18/16-Cubs (Lackey) @ Cardinals (Leake) 7:09 CDT

[heyzeus]

I'm sure there were some fans who did. I'm also sure it happens in the 29 other MLB stadiums.

Yep. Like that game Deadspin plays where they publish a bunch of extremely racist tweets from one fanbase in a "Look how racist ___ fans are!" post. Nevermind that a simple search will yield a bunch of extremely racist tweets from every fanbase. There are a lot of extremely racist Americans, and the venn diagram overlaps significantly with sports fans.

[go birds]

like boston, for instance, who would probably win a "who's the biggest racist city" fight

[fanforever]

The ESPN article makes no mention of it


http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/po ... n-cubs-win

ST. LOUIS -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Jason Heyward heard boos every time he touched the baseball or stepped into the batter’s box. His former fans turned on him after he turned his back on St. Louis in signing an eight-year deal with the Cubs, who took Game 1 of the three-game series 5-0 on Monday night. Win or lose, the negativity wasn’t going to get to Heyward.

“You hear it,” Heyward said after the game. “It’s fun. They don’t boo too often. It must be someone important or someone doing something worth booing.”

Heyward went 0-for-4 at the plate, dropping his batting average to .188. He more than made up for it on defense, though, where he hit the ground several times to make sliding catches in support of another former Cardinal, John Lackey.

“I've seen booed, that ain't booed,” Lackey said, smiling. “That was pretty soft boo.”

Heyward heard it all night from the fans in right field. He claimed it’s not like he was listening for the trash talk, but it was hard to ignore standing out there for nine innings.

“Who didn’t say anything?” Heyward laughed. “Obviously people are going to say something, but there are a lot of Cubs fans here supporting us.”

Heyward and some of his teammates also got a kick out of his old team playing classical music while the Cubs took batting practice before the game. It’s not the usual pregame sounds you might hear at the ballpark.

“If you’re thinking about it that much to play something different, then do your thing,” Heyward said.

[jagtrader]

Matheny’s leadership and managing of the players/crises/whatever is mostly excellent over 162 games. There is no qualms there. But in 5 years he still has not learned to be an effective game manager....he is reactive rather than pro-active...and is too stubborn imo to change (he figures his record speaks for itself etc.). His managing costs us dearly come playoff time when the stakes are bigger. (He has lost six of their last seven postseason games. And since grabbing a 2-1 lead over Boston in the 2013 World Series the Cards have gone 5-11 in the tournament. They’ve also been kicked out of four consecutive postseasons by opponents that swept the final three games of the series) So far this year, against the Cubs/Pirates he is 0-4.

First of all, Matheny's entire playoff record counts. No cherry picking [expletive]. He's 21-22 with one NL championship. That's the record. It's not great, although it's better than Maddon's. One could also make the case he took pretty mediocre teams to the NLCS in 2012 and 2014 and last year's team was held together by paper clips and duct tape for six months. The Cardinals have had some fragile, flawed, youthful rosters the last four years and have averaged nearly 94 wins. That's pretty impressive.

[fanforever]

Matheny’s leadership and managing of the players/crises/whatever is mostly excellent over 162 games. There is no qualms there. But in 5 years he still has not learned to be an effective game manager....he is reactive rather than pro-active...and is too stubborn imo to change (he figures his record speaks for itself etc.). His managing costs us dearly come playoff time when the stakes are bigger. (He has lost six of their last seven postseason games. And since grabbing a 2-1 lead over Boston in the 2013 World Series the Cards have gone 5-11 in the tournament. They’ve also been kicked out of four consecutive postseasons by opponents that swept the final three games of the series) So far this year, against the Cubs/Pirates he is 0-4.

First of all, Matheny's entire playoff record counts. No cherry picking [expletive]. He's 21-22 with one NL championship. That's the record. It's not great, although it's better than Maddon's. One could also make the case he took pretty mediocre teams to the NLCS in 2012 and 2014 and last year's team was held together by paper clips and duct tape for six months. The Cardinals have had some fragile, flawed, youthful rosters the last four years and have averaged nearly 94 wins. That's pretty impressive.

great regular season manager....no doubt about it

[fanforever]

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/04/19/all ... ial-slurs/

File this for now under “allegations by a few people,” but the allegations are enough to get ESPN officials to review game audio from last night’s Cubs-Cardinals matchup. The allegation: that fans in Busch Stadium could be heard taunting Cubs outfielder Jason Heyward with racial slurs.

The allegations, it should be noted, come from four people on Twitter, who claim that they heard the n-word being directed at Heyward via crowd mics on ESPN’s broadcast. The New York Daily News was the first to pass along the allegations made on Twitter. The St. Louis-Post Dispatch has a more in depth story on it, along with the information that ESPN is reviewing audio.

It’s indisputable that many in the crowd booed Heyward, who was making his first trip back to St. Louis since leaving the Cardinals via free agency this past offseason. For what it’s worth, Heyward didn’t complain about it at all, let alone mention anything particularly untoward about the booing. Rather, Heyward just brushed it off by saying that it just shows the fans missed him and, in that sense, it was almost a compliment if you look at it just so.

Whether it was just run-of-the-mill greetings to an ex-local player or something more remains to be seen.

UPDATE: At least one media outlet which reviewed video can find no evidence to support the Twitter users’ allegations. That came via the Comcast feed. When ESPN finishes its own review, we’ll obviously follow up.

[HardcoreCardsFan]

Okay...why is it really that important? People may or may not have called Heyward a bad word. That's not against the law. Do we really need investigations into the matter?

[fanforever]

Okay...why is it really that important? People may or may not have called Heyward a bad word. That's not against the law. Do we really need investigations into the matter?

people should not curse when in a public environment....especially when there are kids around....that is my opinion. It is just common decency

[dmarx114]

Okay...why is it really that important? People may or may not have called Heyward a bad word. That's not against the law. Do we really need investigations into the matter?

And, as has been mentioned already, what exactly would this prove? That St. Louis, like every other city, has a few racist idiots.

Almost seems like the NBC story is begging to have this confirmed so they can run a story with the headline: "Cardinals fans are racist. Here's video!"

[MrCrowesGarden]

Okay...why is it really that important? People may or may not have called Heyward a bad word. That's not against the law. Do we really need investigations into the matter?

And, as has been mentioned already, what exactly would this prove? That St. Louis, like every other city, has a few racist idiots.

Almost seems like the NBC story is begging to have this confirmed so they can run a story with the headline: "Cardinals fans are racist. Here's video!"

It's only a story because it happened in St. Louis. But if you try to make the point of this happens everywhere, it comes across (on social media particularly) as defending the n word. And I'd rather not be lumped in with racist [expletive].