Update: HOLLIDAY A CARD 7yr/120 million, p178

[Jocephus]

ESPN.com's Buster Olney has confirmed that the Cardinals are "close to a deal" with free agent outfielder Matt Holliday.
Former Nationals GM Jim Bowden, now working for Sirius XM and FOXSports.com, first had the news. The deal being discussed is reportedly worth around $98.5 million, though it's not clear if that amount is being stretched over five or six years. Olney suggests a seven-year contract might also have been discussed. Stay tuned as we sort it all out.
Source: ESPN.com

[TimeForGuinness]

I would think 6/102 (with a NTC and opt-out after year 3 or 4) would do the trick, but that's just speculation. Not even informed speculation.

These numbers are so big and ridiculous that none of it from my view is informed. 6/102 sounds the same to me as 6/gazillion billion million trazillion.

LOL...I guess that puts Pujols at 10/sideways "8"

If you change that ten to another sideways 8... I am down for it.

I would put a contract in front of Albert and ask him to fill in the years and amount. And have the mayor standing by with the keys to the city.

...and AB with a wagon full of beer.

[Richie Allen]

I think you have to make a respectful offer too. The Cards know Hollidays market value and if they attempt to go too far under it they could either lose Holliday completely, or he could get disgruntled.

I wouldn't be surprised if Holliday came into this offseason with expectations of getting a deal around 8/168. So he's probably already severely disappointed in how the market has transpired. I would hope the Cardinals are wise enough to see a good deal when it's available and jump on it without trying to do too much. If the Cards can sign Holliday for 7/120, they've gotten a great deal.

I hate when people say "this" but...this. It's wishful thinking to assume that no one else is interested and that we're stupid to be bidding against ourselves. Bay just got, what, $17 million+? So we're going to get Holliday for less than that, why? This market just dictated that Bay was worth $17 million. How much should Holliday get? How much would you have argued we should have offered him if we lose out on him?

[PujolJunkie]

How [expletive] close to a deal can you get 7 or 8 times without signing someone?

[st.lewis11]

ESPN.com's Buster Olney has confirmed that the Cardinals are "close to a deal" with free agent outfielder Matt Holliday.
Former Nationals GM Jim Bowden, now working for Sirius XM and FOXSports.com, first had the news. The deal being discussed is reportedly worth around $98.5 million, though it's not clear if that amount is being stretched over five or six years. Olney suggests a seven-year contract might also have been discussed. Stay tuned as we sort it all out.
Source: ESPN.com

Just more "informed speculation".

[clevername]

again, no one is saying we should lowball him with a $14 million/year offer. We're saying we shouldn't be paying $20 million a year when we can get him for $17-18 million a year.

And if he's going to be a [expletive] because he's only making $17-18 million a year he can get lost.

[Eephus Speed]

I can't get over how silly it is that Bay determines Holliday's market, while outfielders who are at least as valuable as Bay sign for Brandon Lyon money.

[Richie Allen]

again, no one is saying we should lowball him with a $14 million/year offer. We're saying we shouldn't be paying $20 million a year when we can get him for $17-18 million a year.

And if he's going to be a [expletive] because he's only making $17-18 million a year he can get lost.

If you're telling me that we can get him for $17-$18 million a year, I'd be an idiot to say we should give him $20. I just don't know how you would know that.

And I'm also considering that a couple million dollars a year savings will afford us what, a slightly better reserve player or middle reliever? I wouldn't let that come between signing Holliday or not, regardless of whether it appears to be a good deal or not. From where I'm at, not signing Holliday at this point couldn't possibly be considered a good deal for us, at least in the short term. I'll take may chances with him as a Cardinal, even if he is considered overpaid by some.

[Hungary Jack]

Stay tuned as we sort it all out.

This is the media's unrelenting motto.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

again, no one is saying we should lowball him with a $14 million/year offer. We're saying we shouldn't be paying $20 million a year when we can get him for $17-18 million a year.

And if he's going to be a [expletive] because he's only making $17-18 million a year he can get lost.

If you're telling me that we can get him for $17-$18 million a year, I'd be an idiot to say we should give him $20. I just don't know how you would know that.

And I'm also considering that a couple million dollars a year savings will afford us what, a slightly better reserve player or middle reliever? I wouldn't let that come between signing Holliday or not, regardless of whether it appears to be a good deal or not. From where I'm at, not signing Holliday at this point couldn't possibly be considered a good deal for us, at least in the short term. I'll take may chances with him as a Cardinal, even if he is considered overpaid by some.

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and your new sig is awesome