Opening Night: Post Game Thread

[cardfaninfla]

It didn't take a perfect throw. He could have bounced that throw on one hop and still got him. It could have been to teh fiorst base side and they still had a shot to get Eck. Maybe OQuendo DID think there was no way he would throw home, it still doesn't make it a wise move. Beltran makes that throw at least 80% of the time.

You can skip a strike to home, it doesn't mean it doesn't take a perfect throw and perfect execution and mechanics from Beltran, which he delivered. I'm sure he could do it again. Under different circumstances, later, closer, two outs, I'd send Eckstein every time and I'd be willing to bet he scores more often than not though.

Originally I was just clamoring for a little more credit to be given to Beltran. Tom Emanski would have been proud, perfect crow-hop, rounded the ball beautifully and he put the ball into the trashcan on the fly from 180-200 feet away. The play was bang-bang, if the throw were to the other side of the plate Eckstein would've been safe.

If you hold him the worst you end up with is 1st and 3rd, one out and Pujols and Rolen coming up. NO reason what so ever to take even a small chance in that situaion.

Here are thethings that make it a bad play.
1. Score, down 4 you can't afford to have a guy thrown out.
2. Who was on deck.
3. Number of outs.
4. The guy making the throw.
4.

Agreed on all counts.

Still disagree. It wasn't that close. LoDuca had the chance to catch teh ball and turn and set himself. It wasn't like he launched it from even a normal depth in the outfield. He makes that throw at least 80% of the time. He threw it from what about 180 feet or so?

[cardfaninfla]

You know you are disputeing the word of a person that just told you he was looking at the play frame by frame.

Yeah and he said, and I agree that the throw was up the third base line a cuople of feet. So that got LoDuca at least two feet closer to Eck coming in from third and he was still out by at leat 2 steps, which is another 4 feet. Beltran with his arm from where he threw nakes that play 80 percent of the time. With teh best hitter in baseball coming up you don't even take a 20% chance of getting him thrown out.

[Richie Allen]

Not saying that at all. I'm saying in that situation(outs/score/on-deck batter etc...), with that CF'er, with him transferring the ball into his throwing hand before Eck is even at 3rd, he should not have sent him. If Oquendo would have come down the line some, he would have seen the throw in the air when Eck rounded 3rd. He could have thrown the stop sign up after Eck crossed 3rd.

I agree with you, by the way. My response while watching, and I said it out loud, was "what in the hell is he sending him for?"

Just one of many rally killers on opening night.