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G. Keenan wrote:So what happens to Looper once (if) Mulder returns?

The Cards will worry about that in 2008.

G. Keenan wrote:So what happens to Looper once (if) Mulder returns?

Odds are somebody else will be moved to the DL by then.

I'd trade either Flores or Rincon for Julio. Not Johnson though.

RC21 wrote:My guess is they'd just ship someone down in the 'pen and then stick Looper back in there.

Looper will be a serious team player if he's succeeding as a starter and agrees to be moved to the bullpen so that Mulder might reestablish himself.

Could Mulder be used out of the pen?

fulldeck wrote:Could Mulder be used out of the pen?

I don't think so. If he's not going to be effective as a starter I don't see why he'd be any use in the pen. His stuff is either going to come back or not. If it does there's no reason not to start him, and if it doesn't, he can no longer get MLB hitters out.

G. Keenan wrote:

RC21 wrote:My guess is they'd just ship someone down in the 'pen and then stick Looper back in there.

Looper will be a serious team player if he's succeeding as a starter and agrees to be moved to the bullpen so that Mulder might reestablish himself.

I don't know. It is his original role, after all. And again- that's assuming that Looper is doing worse than the other three candidates. He very well might be pitching better than Wells, Reyes, or Wainwright, even if it is unlikely.

Given Wells' contract, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him DFA'd if he goes belly up. I don't think it'll happen, but it is concievable.

RC21 wrote:

G. Keenan wrote:

RC21 wrote:My guess is they'd just ship someone down in the 'pen and then stick Looper back in there.

Looper will be a serious team player if he's succeeding as a starter and agrees to be moved to the bullpen so that Mulder might reestablish himself.

I don't know. It is his original role, after all. And again- that's assuming that Looper is doing worse than the other three candidates. He very well might be pitching better than Wells, Reyes, or Wainwright, even if it is unlikely.

Given Wells' contract, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him DFA'd if he goes belly up. I don't think it'll happen, but it is concievable.

If Looper is doing better than any of those three we aren't going to win many games this season.

G. Keenan wrote:

fulldeck wrote:Could Mulder be used out of the pen?

I don't think so. If he's not going to be effective as a starter I don't see why he'd be any use in the pen. His stuff is either going to come back or not. If it does there's no reason not to start him, and if it doesn't, he can no longer get MLB hitters out.

I wasn't thinking in terms of Mulder not being able to get hitters out. I was thinking back to when the Cards used Morris out of the pen when he was coming back from surgery.

Well, Mulder's deal has incentives for starts built in, not appearances. I don't see him wanting to take a bullpen role unless he's really sweet talked by Duncan and fully imbibes the kool aid.

But, of course, we're already paying a reliever 4.5M to start, so why wouldn't we pay a starter 5M to relieve?