Popeye_Card wrote:vinsanity wrote:He was getting blown out and the program seemed to be getting worse, not better. I just fail to see any problem with firing for that.
My point was that Weis is no better. They were beaten by 30 points by GT. 21 by Penn State. 38 by Michigan. 17 by MSU. 14 by Purdue. 38 by USC. These are beat-downs by top 20 teams, and pretty sound defeats against Big Ten also-rans. But Weis is being given every chance though to prove his worth, while Willingham wasn't.
Huh? Yes he's getting beat but to say Weis is no better is blatantly wrong. After his 10-3 start Ty went 5-7 and 6 - 5. Weis went 9-3 and 10 - 2. Two real good seasons for Weist, 1 for Ty.
Popeye_Card wrote:My enjoyment of their down season has everything to do with the premature annointment of Weis as a football god. ... I just think it's funny how quickly it's all fallen apart, and how the fans aren't turning on Weis like they did on Willingham.
Who anointed Weis as a football god? The same idiots at ESPN you bash about east coast bias? So it's justifiable to blast ND fans because of what some suits say? ND fans were excited for his achievements and apparent return to glory for the ND program. But I don't think any where ready to anoint him a 'God' without winning a National Title or beating USC.
Yes things fell apart this year. So a team doesn't turn on their coach after 1 bad year and it's hypocrisy? Gimme a break. The fact they aren't calling for him to be fired after three years has to do with two things:
1. He was their first choice and was an ND Alum. Two things Ty wasn't.
2. He has two really good years and just one bad one. This could a year of growing pains and give him a chance to sit back and adjust. Do you think ND will accept another year of sub-500 ball? If he doesn't make a bowl next year there will be a huge shake-up, even if Weis isn't gone.