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cardsfantx wrote:
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TimeForGuinness wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Also, don't we have to give the Cards a ton of credit here? They had the winning offer for Stanton and he rejected it. But, the winning deal. The next significance piece that fell fell to us -- Ozuna.

Cards are doing what they had to do. Good job, Mo and Girsch.
I'll wait and see what we gave up, I have a fear we overpaid.
Didn't we kind of determine that was what they had to do at this point?
no...

a package of alcantara (or flaherty) + a grichuk + hudson type of trade is fair for ozuna, and better than another team could/would offer

a package that includes alcantara AND flaherty is an overpay and unnecessary...no other team would have offered close to that
Easy to say now.....they miss out on Ozuna and I can imagine a lot of people blowing a gasket saying the exact opposite.....that the Cards should have overpaid to get the player they wanted, and actually no need to imagine, we've heard it over and over.

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I can't in good conscience hammer them for giving up too much when I've been hammering them for two years for playing it too safe.

With our pitching and OF depth, I have a hard time seeing how we can really give up anything that we would really miss. Yes, the players we trade might have good careers, but the guys we will still have are just as good if not better.

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It might look like an overpay on paper but when you put it in the context of where this team was at and what they needed, Ozuna is worth more to them than many other teams.

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If Alcantara is the best prospect in the deal, throw a parade.

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jagtrader wrote:If Alcantara is the best prospect in the deal, throw a parade.
Yeah, if Flaherty was also in it Heyman would mention it. He's the bigger name.

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Fat Strat wrote:I can't in good conscience hammer them for giving up too much when I've been hammering them for two years for playing it too safe.

With our pitching and OF depth, I have a hard time seeing how we can really give up anything that we would really miss. Yes, the players we trade might have good careers, but the guys we will still have are just as good if not better.

Same. And I'm of the opinion that unless you think you're one of the five or six worst teams in baseball (which we're obviously not), you should always consider yourself going for it.

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I could be completely wrong but if the first pitcher they mention is Alcanatara, I doubt Flaherty is in the trade.

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Fat Strat wrote:
jagtrader wrote:If Alcantara is the best prospect in the deal, throw a parade.
Yeah, if Flaherty was also in it Heyman would mention it. He's the bigger name.
I sure hope you're right

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