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Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:40 am
by cards2468
Sad to see him go, but I think it's for the best. I really didn't start paying attention to the Cards until 1996, so it's going to be strange seeing somebody else. What a way to go out. The greatest decision makers of all time are highly loved and highly hated. Tony will go down as a Cardinal legend and one of the greatest managers of all time.

I'll echo the sentiment that Red is the interim manager until the new manager is selected.

I'm guessing Dunc will follow Tony out. The new manager will have his own staff, but I hope he keeps Big Mac.

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:40 am
by Slider
vinsanity wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Jim Riggleman
I almost think I'd rather have Pettini. What do you think of his exit from Washington?
Whitey was similiar and he is still loved and I think Washington should have ponied up for him

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:41 am
by Fat Strat
vinsanity wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Jim Riggleman
I almost think I'd rather have Pettini. What do you think of his exit from Washington?
I didn't really like it at the time. I understood it, but didn't really like it. For the Cards it would just be so different. He would probably start with a multi-year deal and he wouldn't be this lame-duck guy that management wasn't certain about bringing back. He would be the guy.

As far as his on-the-field stuff, I wish I knew more about him and had paid more attention at his other stops. He's extremely well respected in the Cards organization and he seems to be a very good talent evaluator... which is one of my top priorities in a manager.


Edit: One more thing about the Washington situation. I understood it from both sides -- from Washington's and from Riggleman's. It became a mess, largely because Riggleman wanted it to become a mess. If I was Washington, I would have stuck with him. But, the GM and the club have complete control and I can understand that they wanted to go their own way.

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:42 am
by Slider
Thoughts on Terry Pendleton????

I know for the longest time he was the the supposed choice to replace Cox one day and then he got completely overlooked. Has he soured...I am intrigued by him

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:43 am
by cards2468
Was Tony the last prolific manager? In an era of stats and less focus on managerial decisions, it just doesn't seem like managers are as emphasized as they once were.

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:47 am
by Fan_In_NY
Slider wrote:Thoughts on Terry Pendleton????

I know for the longest time he was the the supposed choice to replace Cox one day and then he got completely overlooked. Has he soured...I am intrigued by him
Pendleton is an interesting one. I kinda like that one.

I am not a fan of Riggleman at all. I know people are tending to remember him "fondly" for getting the Nats on a hot streak before he left, but I think if I remember correctly he has the lowest winning percentage of any manager who has managed as many games as he has.

I either want a new manager that shows he has a brain for the game (able to understand proper double switches, sample size/platoon advantages, etc) or an experienced manager who has shown the ability to manage in the postseason successfully.

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:51 am
by fanforever
for Experience:

Ron Gardenhire
Joe Maddon
Terry Francona


Please no Oquendo...please

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:53 am
by cards2468
Jim Tracy from Colorado?

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 10:54 am
by dmarx114
fanforever wrote:for Experience:

Ron Gardenhire
Joe Maddon
Terry Francona


Please no Oquendo...please
Gardenhire........yes.

All 3 choices would make up my "A list".

Re: Update p 2: Tony LaRussa Retires

Posted: October 31 11, 11:05 am
by Fan_In_NY
dmarx114 wrote:
fanforever wrote:for Experience:

Ron Gardenhire
Joe Maddon
Terry Francona


Please no Oquendo...please
Gardenhire........yes.

All 3 choices would make up my "A list".
And 2 out of the 3 are under contract. I hope most people arent getting their hopes high on guys that currently are employed. I would put the odds that not only the Cards paying in salary and players to get those managers low...but also the odds are extremely low that their current teams would be willing to let the Cards talk to their managers. This isnt college sports where you just grab any manager/coach you want.