Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:32 pm
by jimedmondsfan
Isn't anyone else concerned about his lack of experience? He was only a senator for 3 months before he started running for President. This whole show of going to Europe to prove he can get along with their leaders seems silly. Of course he can get along with them for an afternoon--but it's not about getting along with them. Its about protecting American interests and cooperating with them IF it helps us.
And why write a policy speech on his plan for managing Iraq BEFORE he went there and looked at the situation?
I am not saying I don't like him--I just have questions.
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:36 pm
by Popeye_Card
jimedmondsfan wrote:
clevername wrote:it should be noted that the Berlin speech was following a free rock concert, I believe. That may have had an effect on the numbers, though I don't know why anyone would want to stay for the speech if they weren't interested.
Actually, he spoke between two bands at a huge free Rock concert...so people just stayed for the music and put up with the political crap...
Who were the bands? Isn't 200k an awfully large crowd to show up for a free rock concert, unless it was like U2 or something?
OK, I did a bit of research. The two bands were Reamonn and Patrice. Fairly popular bands in Europe, but to bring in 200k fans? I don't think that was the reason.
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:38 pm
by lukethedrifter
jimedmondsfan wrote:Isn't anyone else concerned about his lack of experience? He was only a senator for 3 months before he started running for President. This whole show of going to Europe to prove he can get along with their leaders seems silly. Of course he can get along with them for an afternoon--but it's not about getting along with them. Its about protecting American interests and cooperating with them IF it helps us.
And why write a policy speech on his plan for managing Iraq BEFORE he went there and looked at the situation?
I am not saying I don't like him--I just have questions.
I'm not even going to bring up W's complete and utter lack of real political and business experience.
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:44 pm
by Arthur Dent
Popeye_Card wrote:Wow, you must be tough to please. He's an incredible orator. Is the substance lacking at times? Maybe. But his delivery is nearly perfect.
I guess I'm not that impressed by delivery.
Here's the "Yes We Can" speech. Can someone explain what's so great about it? Coming together, change, vague goals, blah blah. I've heard it all before.
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Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:47 pm
by Arthur Dent
Popeye_Card wrote:Who were the bands? Isn't 200k an awfully large crowd to show up for a free rock concert, unless it was like U2 or something?
OK, I did a bit of research. The two bands were Reamonn and Patrice. Fairly popular bands in Europe, but to bring in 200k fans? I don't think that was the reason.
If a candidate for the German chancellorship came to speak in St. Louis, would you go?
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:53 pm
by Popeye_Card
Arthur Dent wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:Who were the bands? Isn't 200k an awfully large crowd to show up for a free rock concert, unless it was like U2 or something?
OK, I did a bit of research. The two bands were Reamonn and Patrice. Fairly popular bands in Europe, but to bring in 200k fans? I don't think that was the reason.
If a candidate for the German chancellorship came to speak in St. Louis, would you go?
No, but I'm not going to the free Black Crowes concert in StL tonight either, nor would I go if Obama were giving a speech.
Also, comparing Germans' interest in American politics vs. our interest in Germany's isn't remotely the same.
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 12:54 pm
by lukethedrifter
Well, why aren't you going to the Black Crowes?
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 1:04 pm
by Popeye_Card
lukethedrifter wrote:Well, why aren't you going to the Black Crowes?
Because I'm golfing.
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 1:13 pm
by lukethedrifter
Popeye_Card wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:Well, why aren't you going to the Black Crowes?
Because I'm golfing.
Night golfing, eh? How do you carry your clubs on the MO- JEEE- TOE?
Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: July 25 08, 1:27 pm
by Popeye_Card
lukethedrifter wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:Well, why aren't you going to the Black Crowes?
Because I'm golfing.
Night golfing, eh? How do you carry your clubs on the MO- JEEE- TOE?
Late afternoon and early evening golfing, yes. I'll still be playing after the concert starts.
Plus I wouldn't be going anyway. One I'm not a big concert person, and two I'm not a big fan of the Black Crowes.