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I'd have no problems with the tea party if they'd been screaming about all the spending during the Bush era but it wasn't until Obama came around they they started doing all their yelling. That to me just discredits them. Of course if you ask one they will tell you they were against it when Bush was around but all the ones I know were not. Which brings me to my second problem with them which is they are a bunch of liars.

IMADreamer wrote:I'd have no problems with the tea party if they'd been screaming about all the spending during the Bush era but it wasn't until Obama came around they they started doing all their yelling.

That would be because

past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opini ... party.html

Considering they claim to be the ideologically pure Republicans, it's still pretty disingenuous of them to not say a word as Bush spent trillions on tax cuts and dead Arabs.

cpebbles wrote:Considering they claim to be the ideologically pure Republicans, it's still pretty disingenuous of them to not say a word as Bush spent trillions on tax cuts and dead Arabs.

It's just that they didn't know they were Tea Partiers yet. The clarion call had not been bellowed from the Board of Trade as yet.

lukethedrifter wrote:

cpebbles wrote:Considering they claim to be the ideologically pure Republicans, it's still pretty disingenuous of them to not say a word as Bush spent trillions on tax cuts and dead Arabs.

It's just that they didn't know they were Tea Partiers yet. The clarion call had not been bellowed from the Board of Trade as yet.

Oh - I see, it was a Revelation.

Ha ha. Who knows that Rick Santelli's claim to fame would be his rant that spawned a schism in the GOP.

A propos of nothing, inflexion points in recent US political history, from my POV:

1988: George H Bush utters his nasaly voice "Faaamily Vaaaalues" at the convention. I can hear still hear it. "WTF does this mean" was my response. Lost my vote right there, and it seemed that religious fundamentalism was really starting to hold sway in the GOP, for worse.

January 2003: W Bush draws his line in the sand against Saddam, painting himself and Saddam into opposite corners. I was working in Singapore at the time with a bunch of Europeans. We all had a really crappy feeling about it. Meanwhile Bin Laden is running around Pakistan/Afghanistan. The invasion soon follows. I am about 90% convinced the WMD stuff was all pretense. The war, IMO, is the single biggest policy mistake in my lifetime.

2008: Obama elected US President. Unfortunately a polarized and uncompromising Congress largely stifles his plans for change. I think the Tea Party will be a minor footnote in our political history, but the conservative party really seems to be splintering. You have to wonder if conservatism will be sentenced to the wilderness for next decade or two.

IMADreamer wrote:I'd have no problems with the tea party if they'd been screaming about all the spending during the Bush era but it wasn't until Obama came around they they started doing all their yelling. That to me just discredits them. Of course if you ask one they will tell you they were against it when Bush was around but all the ones I know were not.

They weren't against the wars or tax cuts, but to be fair it started with the bank bail outs in 08 that were under Bush.

Remember they all threw tea bags in to the river? "Hey guys, to fight all this government spending lets go spend thousands of dollars on tea bags and throw them in rivers to protest government spending. It'll be like 1773 and the Boston Tea Party where those patriots threw the tea overboard!"

Except that was protesting taxes on tea (among others). And the Tea was from a giant corporation. If we trashed a bunch of GM cars on a car dealership lot to protest the auto bail outs it'd be called treason by these tea partiers.

vinsanity wrote:If we trashed a bunch of GM cars on a car dealership lot to protest the auto bail outs it'd be called treason by these tea partiers.

Not sure I follow that logic.

Hungary Jack wrote:

vinsanity wrote:If we trashed a bunch of GM cars on a car dealership lot to protest the auto bail outs it'd be called treason by these tea partiers.

Not sure I follow that logic.

Yea, I think the tea partiers would support trashing "Government Motors" cars.