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BenNX74205 wrote:
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GatewaySnayke wrote:Brad Edwards told Chris Dimino that the Orange Bowl probably thought that with Missouri coming off of a loss like they did that, the fan base would be demoralized and not want to show up.
Good call, Orange Bowl. Mizzou's Cotton Bowl allotment sold out in 2 hours.
Any data on how Kansas' Orange Bowl allotment is selling?
Their website doesn't have any type of update. Given that they sold a bunch of Arrowhead tickets to Mizzou fans, and were completely outclassed in terms of environment by a smaller contingent of Mizzou fans at Arrowhead, and didn't bring as many fans to College Gameday as Mizzou did, I'm going to guess that seats are still available.

EDIT: Yep, kU's website still lets you order tickets if you like.

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It's basketball season anyway. KU fans have already forgotten who Ted Reesing is.

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
BenNX74205 wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:Brad Edwards told Chris Dimino that the Orange Bowl probably thought that with Missouri coming off of a loss like they did that, the fan base would be demoralized and not want to show up.
Good call, Orange Bowl. Mizzou's Cotton Bowl allotment sold out in 2 hours.
Any data on how Kansas' Orange Bowl allotment is selling?
Their website doesn't have any type of update. Given that they sold a bunch of Arrowhead tickets to Mizzou fans, and were completely outclassed in terms of environment by a smaller contingent of Mizzou fans at Arrowhead, and didn't bring as many fans to College Gameday as Mizzou did, I'm going to guess that seats are still available.

EDIT: Yep, kU's website still lets you order tickets if you like.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Definitely tickets still available.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:It's basketball season anyway. KU fans have already forgotten who Ted Reesing is.
Nice. Very nice.

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wow that really sucks.

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Look, before I type this I'm going to put the disclaimer out there that I do think Missouri should be in over Kansas because of the win on the neutral field and their whole body of work..

That being said..

Again, I can understand to a point why the Orange Bowl took Kansas over Missouri...Kansas has the 1 loss while Missouri has the two losses...they had 5 common opponents and were each 5-0 against them.....besides the argument that Missouri beat Kansas and deserves to go (which I agree with, all things being considered) you are basically saying the win against Illinois gets Mizzou in...well....newsflash...I understand Illinois is going to the Rose Bowl....but they lost to Iowa for criss sakes (who, take my word for it, is terrible) while getting outplayed TWICE by Oklahoma...

Missouri out-played Kansas for most of the game in Arrowhead, but watching that last quarter....Mangino figured something out, because if I remember correctly Kansas scored in a NY minute on 4 of their last 5 possessions did they not? I don't really think there is that much of a difference between the two teams, and especially not the difference everyone seems to be making it out to be..

(playing devil's advocate)

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JGant82 wrote:Look, before I type this I'm going to put the disclaimer out there that I do think Missouri should be in over Kansas because of the win on the neutral field and their whole body of work..

That being said..

Again, I can understand to a point why the Orange Bowl took Kansas over Missouri...Kansas has the 1 loss while Missouri has the two losses...they had 5 common opponents and were each 5-0 against them.....besides the argument that Missouri beat Kansas and deserves to go (which I agree with, all things being considered) you are basically saying the win against Illinois gets Mizzou in...well....newsflash...I understand Illinois is going to the Rose Bowl....but they lost to Iowa for criss sakes (who, take my word for it, is terrible) while getting outplayed TWICE by Oklahoma...

Missouri out-played Kansas for most of the game in Arrowhead, but watching that last quarter....Mangino figured something out, because if I remember correctly Kansas scored in a NY minute on 4 of their last 5 possessions did they not? I don't really think there is that much of a difference between the two teams, and especially not the difference everyone seems to be making it out to be..

(playing devil's advocate)
Kansas didn't really "figure it out". Mizzou did the same thing they did against Illinois. In a rivalry game they got up at least 3 touchdowns and then played the clock out. And it worked. Kansas had everything go right that they could possibly hope for, and their best shot was to go something like 85 yards in 18 seconds with no timeouts. Mizzou controlled the game, and everyone knew it.

And if you're going to say Illinois lost to Iowa, then you have to mention that they beat Ohio State in Columbus.

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JGant82 wrote:Again, I can understand to a point why the Orange Bowl took Kansas over Missouri...Kansas has the 1 loss while Missouri has the two losses...
Doesn't matter. Missouri has two losses to one of the best teams in the country, coupled with wins over several very good teams. Kansas has NO noteworthy wins and a loss against the only truly good team they played. The Jayhawks are a good team, but they are not more deserving than Missouri.
they had 5 common opponents and were each 5-0 against them.....besides the argument that Missouri beat Kansas and deserves to go (which I agree with, all things being considered) you are basically saying the win against Illinois gets Mizzou in...well....newsflash...I understand Illinois is going to the Rose Bowl....but they lost to Iowa for criss sakes (who, take my word for it, is terrible) while getting outplayed TWICE by Oklahoma...
No, it's not the win against Illinois that gets Missouri in. That certainly strengthens their case, given that Illinois will play in the Rose Bowl, but Missouri defeated Kansas to win the North, played in the conference championship game, and had a much stronger schedule than KU. They are more deserving.
Missouri out-played Kansas for most of the game in Arrowhead, but watching that last quarter....Mangino figured something out, because if I remember correctly Kansas scored in a NY minute on 4 of their last 5 possessions did they not? I don't really think there is that much of a difference between the two teams, and especially not the difference everyone seems to be making it out to be..
Kansas was in hurry-up mode for the entire second half and Missouri was playing with a big lead, which means their defensive strategy was different than it might have been had the game been closer. Mizzou probably should've protected the lead better, but Kansas was throwing long bombs and going for broke to scratch their way back into it.

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
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GatewaySnayke wrote:Great. Illinois gets to the freaking Rose Bowl.

I hope USC wins by at least 45.
Well, too bad Notre Dame missed out this year.
Do you really believe that if the situation was reversed (OU in the title having won the Big 12) the Fiesta bowl would just say "Sorry Big 12, we'd rather see Illinois than Mizzou since the Illini are ranked higher."?

If you can honestly say they would, well you lose all credibility.
No, the Fiesta Bowl isn't nearly as insane as the Rose Bowl. It doesn't have it's own separate TV contract, it is not technically not part of the BCS, and is not married to the commissioners of it's auto-bid conferences because of it's anti-playoff stance. The Fiesta Bowl hasn't taken a Big 12 team 3 times out of the last 6 games, not even including the NC game it hosted. To reiterate, no, the Fiesta Bowl would not do the same thing as the Rose Bowl did. It's not a lack of credibility that leads to this conclusion, just common sense.
That's BS.

Yes, the Rose Bowl stuck with the tradition of having a Big 10 team play, so what? Instead of [expletive] about it WIN THE DAMN BIG 12!

Was it the same situation the three times a Big 12 team didn't go? Were there 2 Big 12 teams eligible and one got pushed to a NC game then they snubbed another, qualified Big 12 team??

It is your biased opinion and somewhat reasonable logic that leads to that conclusion, not 'common sense'. To say anything on the BCS is common sense further dis-credits you. I'm done with this troll filled board.

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vinsanity wrote:It is your biased opinion and somewhat reasonable logic that leads to that conclusion, not 'common sense'. To say anything on the BCS is common sense further dis-credits you. I'm done with this troll filled board.
Is it really necessary to throw an e-fit about it? Nothing on an internet message board should get you angry to the point that you have to leave.

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