Civil Rights Up for Vote

[JCShutout]

If Democracy Doesn't Work, Try Anarchy
by Chuck Norris

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNor ... chy?page=1

I agree with the majority of what he said there. These riots and acts of violence are ridiculous. I disagree with prop 8, but to go out and start attacking those who disagree with you is wrong. Period.

About the violent attacks, sure, I agree. But the rest of the article is baloney. And while I don't condone any attacks on churches, I do think that it's about time these churches that are so vocally in opposition to rights being extended to people other than themselves be held accountable and challenged on it. At the very least, I think we should start thinking about stripping these political organizations of their tax-exemptions. Not only are they involved politically, but they raise huge amounts of money for a whole bunch of activities that have nothing to do with charity.

Put it this way... gay people are constantly being attacked, both in words and in violence. I didn't see Chuck making a big deal when a lesbian woman who was campaigning against Prop 8 was beaten and kicked by 3 pro-Prop 8 men on a street corner during the campaign. Gay people are under attack every day. And this proposition was an attack on gay people. It singled out one group to strip away a right that has no impact on those who voted for it.

The violent reaction is not condonable but it's certainly understandable. The bigots who campaign so heavily in favor of propositions like this one are able to hide behind their religions, but it's about time that the fight be taken to them directly. That doesn't mean violence, but it does mean challenging them directly and exposing their bigotry and political activity for exactly what it is.

And to write an article like this that sort of paints a picture of the entire anti-Prop 8 crowd as a bunch of violent anarchists knocking over churchgoers and sending "white powder" to churches would be like me writing an article about McCain supporters that criticizes the whole lot of Republican voters citing examples like the crazy woman who carved a B in her head or the white supremacists who were plotting to kill Obama.

It's absolutely silly for Norris to suggest, however, that gay people should just accept the defeat and move on. The comparison to the presidential election is weak. And anyway, I'm sure Republicans will be on the attack on January 21st, and will be planning and plotting their comeback in the next cycle of elections. Protest is a part of American history, especially as it relates to oppressed people seeking their civil rights. So no, the Prop 8 opponents won't just lie down and accept defeat.

But I'm glad the divorced adulterer and father of an illegitimate daughter who he didn't even meet until she was 26 years old is held up by the religious right as a voice for traditional marriage.

perfectly said. ++ infinity.

[BW23]

If Democracy Doesn't Work, Try Anarchy
by Chuck Norris

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNor ... chy?page=1

I agree with the majority of what he said there. These riots and acts of violence are ridiculous. I disagree with prop 8, but to go out and start attacking those who disagree with you is wrong. Period.

About the violent attacks, sure, I agree. But the rest of the article is baloney. And while I don't condone any attacks on churches, I do think that it's about time these churches that are so vocally in opposition to rights being extended to people other than themselves be held accountable and challenged on it. At the very least, I think we should start thinking about stripping these political organizations of their tax-exemptions. Not only are they involved politically, but they raise huge amounts of money for a whole bunch of activities that have nothing to do with charity.

Put it this way... gay people are constantly being attacked, both in words and in violence. I didn't see Chuck making a big deal when a lesbian woman who was campaigning against Prop 8 was beaten and kicked by 3 pro-Prop 8 men on a street corner during the campaign. Gay people are under attack every day. And this proposition was an attack on gay people. It singled out one group to strip away a right that has no impact on those who voted for it.

The violent reaction is not condonable but it's certainly understandable. The bigots who campaign so heavily in favor of propositions like this one are able to hide behind their religions, but it's about time that the fight be taken to them directly. That doesn't mean violence, but it does mean challenging them directly and exposing their bigotry and political activity for exactly what it is.

And to write an article like this that sort of paints a picture of the entire anti-Prop 8 crowd as a bunch of violent anarchists knocking over churchgoers and sending "white powder" to churches would be like me writing an article about McCain supporters that criticizes the whole lot of Republican voters citing examples like the crazy woman who carved a B in her head or the white supremacists who were plotting to kill Obama.

It's absolutely silly for Norris to suggest, however, that gay people should just accept the defeat and move on. The comparison to the presidential election is weak. And anyway, I'm sure Republicans will be on the attack on January 21st, and will be planning and plotting their comeback in the next cycle of elections. Protest is a part of American history, especially as it relates to oppressed people seeking their civil rights. So no, the Prop 8 opponents won't just lie down and accept defeat.

But I'm glad the divorced adulterer and father of an illegitimate daughter who he didn't even meet until she was 26 years old is held up by the religious right as a voice for traditional marriage.

I hope this was sarcasm in relation to the rest of your post.

[clevername]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

[Jocephus]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

no kiddin'

[BW23]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

[wart57]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

And everyone who has posted negatively about Chuck are now on his hit list. It has been nice knowing you.

[JCShutout]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

And everyone who has posted negatively about Chuck are now on his hit list. It has been nice knowing you.

I've got a katana. BRING IT CHUCKY!

[wart57]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

And everyone who has posted negatively about Chuck are now on his hit list. It has been nice knowing you.

I've got a katana. BRING IT CHUCKY!

Chuck eats katana's for breakfast, face it JC, your bucket has been kicked.

[JCShutout]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

And everyone who has posted negatively about Chuck are now on his hit list. It has been nice knowing you.

I've got a katana. BRING IT CHUCKY!

Chuck eats katana's for breakfast, face it JC, your bucket has been kicked.

Poppycock! Chuck's defeat will be happened; it shall be going to be happening; it will be was an event that could will have been taken place in the future. Simple as that. His bucket's been kicked, baby!

EDIT: BTW, how the smeg did magna-c-u-m-laude get censored in another thread, but poppycock slides through the filter with no problem?

[wart57]

why is pointing out the hypocrisy wrong?

Because what he posted in the highlighted part was completely hypocritical to the rest of his post. He says that the article Chuck wrote paints an entire group this way based on a couple of crazies and that it's unfair just as it is to paint McCain supporters to be just like the crazy woman who carved the B in her face or the guys plotting assassinations.

He did the same way to the religious right. I'm part of that group as are all my friends. I don't know anyone that puts any stock into what Chuck says. He's completely irrelevant.

Although, I truly do believe this: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

And everyone who has posted negatively about Chuck are now on his hit list. It has been nice knowing you.

I've got a katana. BRING IT CHUCKY!

Chuck eats katana's for breakfast, face it JC, your bucket has been kicked.

Poppycock! Chuck's defeat will be happened; it shall be going to be happening; it will be was an event that could will have been taken place in the future. Simple as that. His bucket's been kicked, baby!

EDIT: BTW, how the smeg did magna-c-u-m-laude get censored in another thread, but poppycock slides through the filter with no problem?

The effects of a white hole?