My prediction: We sign Robert for a total of $65 mil. Yours?

[Famous Mortimer]

Do Goold's actual articles (the ones that the FO reads, I guess) have that level of fire in them?

[Tim]

Do Goold's actual articles (the ones that the FO reads, I guess) have that level of fire in them?

No

[Famous Mortimer]

Ah well. He's asking us to hold the FO accountable, but isn't that kind-of his job?

[MrCrowesGarden]

Ah well. He's asking us to hold the FO accountable, but isn't that kind-of his job?

Yes.

I've accused Goold/P-D of being just extended PR firms for the Cardinals for some time, but I really think he feels stunned by this one. Maybe this is the straw that broke this camel's back. It all goes back to the idea of "if you're not going to spend on this guy, when are you?"

[Socnorb11]

This site says the Cardinals revenue in 2016 was $310 million:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/196 ... ince-2006/

The Cards' 25 man opening day payroll in 2016 was $145 million:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compe ... cardinals/

So that's like 46.7% for 2016. The number vary depending on which ones you use (25 man vs 40 man for example). But the trend is clearly downward since 2005 no matter how you really look at it.

How does that number compare to other teams?

[Famous Mortimer]

I looked for that a while ago, then realised I couldn't be bothered. I don't particularly care what the other teams do. I know what you're getting at (maybe payroll is going down across the league), but it doesn't make what's happening to the Cardinals right (or wrong, depending).

[MrCrowesGarden]

This site says the Cardinals revenue in 2016 was $310 million:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/196 ... ince-2006/

The Cards' 25 man opening day payroll in 2016 was $145 million:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compe ... cardinals/

So that's like 46.7% for 2016. The number vary depending on which ones you use (25 man vs 40 man for example). But the trend is clearly downward since 2005 no matter how you really look at it.

How does that number compare to other teams?

Admittedly, there are some discrepancies that I haven't looked over yet.

[Spider John]

Ah well. He's asking us to hold the FO accountable, but isn't that kind-of his job?

Yes.

I've accused Goold/P-D of being just extended PR firms for the Cardinals for some time, but I really think he feels stunned by this one. Maybe this is the straw that broke this camel's back. It all goes back to the idea of "if you're not going to spend on this guy, when are you?"

Goold is the beat reporter, so I think he's supposed to get the news, and not give opinions. That's the columnist job.

I read most of his chats, and he does take the team to task when needed.

[MrCrowesGarden]

Ah well. He's asking us to hold the FO accountable, but isn't that kind-of his job?

Yes.

I've accused Goold/P-D of being just extended PR firms for the Cardinals for some time, but I really think he feels stunned by this one. Maybe this is the straw that broke this camel's back. It all goes back to the idea of "if you're not going to spend on this guy, when are you?"

Goold is the beat reporter, so I think he's supposed to get the news, and not give opinions. That's the columnist job.

I read most of his chats, and he does take the team to task when needed.

It's not his job to be a mouthpiece for the organization, which has happened in the past.

[lukethedrifter]

Ah well. He's asking us to hold the FO accountable, but isn't that kind-of his job?

Yes.

I've accused Goold/P-D of being just extended PR firms for the Cardinals for some time, but I really think he feels stunned by this one. Maybe this is the straw that broke this camel's back. It all goes back to the idea of "if you're not going to spend on this guy, when are you?"

Goold is the beat reporter, so I think he's supposed to get the news, and not give opinions. That's the columnist job.

I read most of his chats, and he does take the team to task when needed.

It's not his job to be a mouthpiece for the organization, which has happened in the past.

I don't think that's accurate. He's a low key, no drama sort.