Never seen him play, the things I've read on him...Fat Strat wrote: Thanks. Good stuff. Very good stuff. I like it.
Incidentally, how does he compare to Allen Craig, if you've scouted him at all? Did we upgrade?
At this point, does it matter?Colbert Rasmols wrote:That seems like a reasonable thought, though I think DeWitt could probably afford to keep Edmonds *and* include cash in a Rolen trade. They could possibly get a more generous return for Rolen, if the Edmonds cash is included along with Rolen.thrill wrote:My optimism is hoping that it is going to allow them to deal Rolen for something good and be able to pay part of his salary.
But unless we're able to get a better return than I expect, I'm still opposed to trading Rolen at this time.
Maybe I missed it but what dont you like about him?jim wrote: - This dude they picked up is better than what I think he is.
Saturday, December 15, 2007
Padres to get Edmonds, cash from Cardinals for minor leaguer
Associated Press
SAN DIEGO -- Jim Edmonds is returning to Southern California, this time as a member of the San Diego Padres.
The Padres obtained the 37-year-old center fielder and cash from the St. Louis Cardinals on Saturday for a minor leaguer. The deal needed approval of the commissioner's office because the Cardinals are sending approximately $1 million to the Padres to help offset Edmonds' 2008 salary.
The deal came about quickly after the agent for free agent center fielder Mike Cameron broke off talks with the Padres on Friday.
The Cardinals will get minor league third baseman David Freese.
Edmonds grew up in Diamond Bar in Los Angeles County and was drafted by the Angels in 1988. He played for the Angels from late in the 1993 season until being traded to St. Louis just before the 2000 season.
Edmonds was slowed by injuries last season but the eight-time Gold Glove winner recently pronounced himself fit.
The acquisition of Edmonds came after the Padres were spurned by three outfielders in less than a week.
Cameron's agent broke off negotiations for a deal to bring back the center fielder on Friday. Cameron is suspended for the first 25 games of 2008 after testing positive a second time for a banned stimulant.
Last weekend, left fielder Milton Bradley accepted a one-year deal from the Texas Rangers worth approximately $5 million. The Padres had offered $4 million to bring back Bradley.
Plus, the Padres lost out in the bidding for Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome, who signed with the Chicago Cubs.
Padres right fielder Brian Giles is coming off microfracture surgery on his right knee. The Padres have expressed interest in signing free agent Geoff Jenkins.
Edmonds and the Cardinals beat the Padres in the opening round of the playoffs in both 2005 and 2006.
After the Cardinals won the 2006 World Series, the four-time All-Star had operations on his right shoulder and left toe. He batted just .222 in April.
"I wasn't even close to healthy," he said last month.
Edmonds wound up batting .252 with 12 homers and 53 RBIs -- his lowest totals since 1999 with the Angels. But heading into the final season of a $19 million, two-year contract, he expects much better production from himself next season.
"Everything is gone now and I'm feeling really good," he said. "I'm feeling the best I've felt in five or six years. I'm already working out and already running and doing some things that I need to do."
Edmonds appeared in the postseason with the Cardinals in six of the last eight seasons, including two World Series.
The Padres fell one victory short of making it to the playoffs for the third straight season. San Diego hasn't won a postseason series since 1998.
the 24-year-old Freese batted .302 with 17 homers and 96 RBIs with Single-A Lake Elsinore.
LOLGatewaySnayke wrote:The Edmonds trade has opened up the door to so many great things in 2008.
They scouted him much less than almost any team. But they've tried to get him lately. I was hoping they'd get him this winter.UK wrote:Dewitt was scouted alot more heavily than Freese coming out of HS, I'm sure by STL as well. If they want him, it takes two to tango.BW23 wrote:
This probably kills my wish of them continuing to pursue DeWitt.
I don't know him at all, I'm just suspicious that a player drafted in the 9th round at age 23 probably isn't anything special. He was rated as the Padres 15th best prospect last season, and I'm being told by reputable people he will be a top 10 in our system. So he's on the radar, but certainly not a blue chipper.jdk82 wrote:Maybe I missed it but what dont you like about him?jim wrote: - This dude they picked up is better than what I think he is.
As far as the round he was drafted in he was a 5th year senior without any option left and to get drafted in the 9th round is pretty darn good. He would have been in AA last year if not for Chase Headlely the Padres top prospect who also plays third. No question this guy can hit the ball, he has hit whereever he has been, fielding on the other hand was suspect which apparently got better as he was voted as the best defender at 3B in the California league.jim wrote:I don't know him at all, I'm just suspicious that a player drafted in the 9th round at age 23 probably isn't anything special. He was rated as the Padres 15th best prospect last season, and I'm being told by reputable people he will be a top 10 in our system. So he's on the radar, but certainly not a blue chipper.jdk82 wrote:Maybe I missed it but what dont you like about him?jim wrote: - This dude they picked up is better than what I think he is.
Guys with credentials like that sometimes turn out to be useful players. There is certainly value in that, but not enough for me to throw any chance at all of competing out the door in '08.
Edmonds was 1 year, 8M. No infringement on '09, just a 1 year gamble on '08. How many times have we said "There are no such things as bad one year contracts"? A border line HOF'er, a fan favorite, and a 1 year contract. But we dump that, and sign what might actually be the definition of a bad 1 year contract (Izturis)?
That's what i don't get. I'm hoping something happens where it's a Eureka moment with me, where all the lights come on and the grand master plan becomes clear in my brain. Until then, I'm left scratching my head.
Time will tell, you just don't often hear of guys staying in school 5 years that make an impact. Most guys are coming out in 3, not 5. I'm not saying it isn't possible he slipped through the cracks, it just makes me raise my eyebrows a little. The guy is entering his peak years in AA.jdk82 wrote:As far as the round he was drafted in he was a 5th year senior without any option left and to get drafted in the 9th round is pretty darn good. He would have been in AA last year if not for Chase Headlely the Padres top prospect who also plays third. No question this guy can hit the ball, he has hit whereever he has been, fielding on the other hand was suspect which apparently got better as he was voted as the best defender at 3B in the California league.jim wrote:I don't know him at all, I'm just suspicious that a player drafted in the 9th round at age 23 probably isn't anything special. He was rated as the Padres 15th best prospect last season, and I'm being told by reputable people he will be a top 10 in our system. So he's on the radar, but certainly not a blue chipper.jdk82 wrote:Maybe I missed it but what dont you like about him?jim wrote: - This dude they picked up is better than what I think he is.
Guys with credentials like that sometimes turn out to be useful players. There is certainly value in that, but not enough for me to throw any chance at all of competing out the door in '08.
Edmonds was 1 year, 8M. No infringement on '09, just a 1 year gamble on '08. How many times have we said "There are no such things as bad one year contracts"? A border line HOF'er, a fan favorite, and a 1 year contract. But we dump that, and sign what might actually be the definition of a bad 1 year contract (Izturis)?
That's what i don't get. I'm hoping something happens where it's a Eureka moment with me, where all the lights come on and the grand master plan becomes clear in my brain. Until then, I'm left scratching my head.
Cardinals gave 2 million to the Padres so we will see how the Cardinals spend that 6 million or if they just keep it. Definately will be able to judge things better once we know that.