Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD
Posted: June 12 08, 7:55 pm
I fit in at an Applebee's salad bar, and hate myself for it.
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Why the hell are there salad bars at your Applebee's?Leroy wrote:I fit in at an Applebee's salad bar, and hate myself for it.
Trust me, it is the last place you'd find me.GatewaySnayke wrote:Why the hell are there salad bars at your Applebee's?Leroy wrote:I fit in at an Applebee's salad bar, and hate myself for it.
That's fair. I just think the lockstep thing is way off.GatewaySnayke wrote:But he's winning them back by doing things like siding with the Democrats in opposing Bush's tax cuts then turning around and making them a big part of his campaign and pushing to make them permanent.ghostrunner wrote: Either way, he's ticked off a lot of conservatives on big issues at some expense to his candidacy and he can hardly be charged with marching lockstep. He also happened to mostly agree with Bush on how to approach immigration but that's again a coincidence and not uncommon for lawmakers in that region.
You can't lecture voters as a candidate.GatewaySnayke wrote:Why the hell are there salad bars at your Applebee's?Leroy wrote:I fit in at an Applebee's salad bar, and hate myself for it.
Barack hit back tonight on how McCain doesn't care about the cost of the war. While I can accept that McCain probably misspoke when he said that the time for bringing the troops home "isn't important," he's yet to provide a good reason why we should be spending kajillions of dollars on the war.
He's been saying that we have had troops in South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc for sixty years and they are all relatively safe, and it should be a basis for our plan in Iraq. I know you generally believe in military isolationism, Snayke, so I'm not expecting to you agree with this policy, but its been consistent with our policies for the past 100 years and it hasn't failed any of the countries in which it has existed. Its actaully the best peace keeping solution there currently is, as no foreign nations want to overtly shoot at U.S. troops. The three of our largest former occupations+current established bases, Germany, Japan, and S. Korea, are all generally listed as ranking somewhere around #5-9 as the most powerful nations in the world. He's saying we shouldn't be looking at how fast we can leave, as how fast we can get the casualties down to null. If we can get them down to zero, remove most of the troops but keep several long-term bases, like we have before, perhaps they will have a chance at the prosperity that their formers have achieved, and in fifty years, we can say Iraq was overall a success. It's much easier to say, look, we have soldiers over there for five years and they have been getting killed, we want to have them home, we don't see the purpose for them to be over there anymore, so lets just leave.GatewaySnayke wrote:While I can accept that McCain probably misspoke when he said that the time for bringing the troops home "isn't important,"