Some of us on the wrong side of 50 are losing that quality.M1IRONMIKE wrote:Not gutless.....patient.....because in the end we know we will winMedwick's Ghost wrote:I tend to think so. They let the Hawks get away. They let the Big Red and Rams get away. Now they are letting the Cardinals get away with (baseball) murder.
Point one: The ostracization of Ozzie Smith by La Russa. Why no uproar?
Point two: Matheney being named manager over a slew of better options, one of which that is now DONE with the team in Oquendo. Why no groundswell of decent?
Point three and the one that grates my ass the most: An overpaid, free swinging meathead batting 3rd in the order between two far superior hitters. It's insanity. Prolonged insanity. But is he ever booed? No. He would be booed in NY, Chicago, Philly and other cities and it would get national attention forcing the FO to do the right thing.
But St. Louis fans just sit on their dwindling laurels, complacent, thus complicit.
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You will never see Jose in a Cardinal uniform again, excepting some old timers function. His presence is a nagging reminder that De Wittless hired a flunky instead of a very deserving Latino to manage. The more obvious it becomes that MM is a failure the worse it could get...at least in his mind.wart57 wrote:How is Oquendo being eased out the door? He had knee surgery. I would love to see him get a managerial job, but it won't be in St. Louis. LaRussa - love him or hate him was involved in some of the most Successful Cardinal Years ever.Medwick's Ghost wrote:Huge movie buff. Well, I WAS until action and CGI became more important than story.Joe Shlabotnik wrote:Glad you caught the reference.Medwick's Ghost wrote:Sorry, but I know (or care) nothing about that issue.Joe Shlabotnik wrote:"Not only are you a cheat. You're a gutless cheat."
Don't forget the ongoing FBI investigation.
Oh, Joe: It's "you're a gutless cheat as well"
I used to be a big Card buff too. But the addition of LaRussa and his self serving practices actually being lauded by the talking heads started chipping away at my loyalty. Now that he's gone I would think that Ozzie would have been restored to a significant place in the organization. Oh's interpreter wears a Card uni for Chrissakes.
Right now Oquendo is being eased out the door and the town says nothing. I stand by gutless.
St. Louis didn't "let" the Rams get away. The owner wanted to move, so St. Louis got [expletive] so the NFL could make more money.
LOL...as I type MH hits one out.
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Not just knee surgery; knee replacement surgery. I read something in the Post a little while ago (wish I could remember when) indicating that Oquendo has expressed an interest in remaining in Jupiter and becoming the next George Kissel.wart57 wrote:How is Oquendo being eased out the door? He had knee surgery. I would love to see him get a managerial job, but it won't be in St. Louis.Medwick's Ghost wrote:Huge movie buff. Well, I WAS until action and CGI became more important than story.Joe Shlabotnik wrote:Glad you caught the reference.Medwick's Ghost wrote:Sorry, but I know (or care) nothing about that issue.Joe Shlabotnik wrote:"Not only are you a cheat. You're a gutless cheat."
Don't forget the ongoing FBI investigation.
Oh, Joe: It's "you're a gutless cheat as well"
I used to be a big Card buff too. But the addition of LaRussa and his self serving practices actually being lauded by the talking heads started chipping away at my loyalty. Now that he's gone I would think that Ozzie would have been restored to a significant place in the organization. Oh's interpreter wears a Card uni for Chrissakes.
Right now Oquendo is being eased out the door and the town says nothing. I stand by gutless.
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Yeah but who crowbarred him in the knee in the first place? It wasn't Jeff Gillillylooly that's for sure. It was probably DeWallet.
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MM just prayed real hard that Oquendo would be side-lined so he wouldn't be managing from third base.jim wrote:Yeah but who crowbarred him in the knee in the first place? It wasn't Jeff Gillillylooly that's for sure. It was probably DeWallet.
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All I know about this Medwick's Ghost is that he/she hates Matt Holliday with a passion.
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Totally untrue. I feel sorry for him. It's not his fault that he can't perform commensurate with his contract. You can see what a shrinking violet he is on the bench. You know what the better performers being paid way less are thinking. It's not a good situation.Cheddar Tom wrote:All I know about this Medwick's Ghost is that he/she hates Matt Holliday with a passion.
What's the guy gonna do: ask to be batted 7th where he belongs? I don't hate Matt. It's sad to see him busting his bat on the ground every time he ends a rally with the 3rd out. His frustration must be ginormous.
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Commensurate. I'll bet you concur with people too.
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