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pop_haines wrote:
Radbird wrote:So I suppose this eliminates Edwards from veep consideration???

Was his staff banging her too, or did he talk one of them into taking the paternity fall for him?
He's "Gary Hart" finished. Idiot.

The word in the backrooms is that Feingold is being considered for Veep.

This is pretty awesome, right here, if true.
That would be ballsy. He's to the left of even your average Democratic voter. I'm not sure there's much to gain in terms of votes by naming him, and it could hurt if the Republicans point out his support for stuff like universal health care (period) and gay marriage.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:I didn't think Edwards was ever a serious candidate. Remember, the Republicans have managed to successfully brand him as hypocritical populist who cares more about his hair than policy. Even if it's just a bunch of crap, I think it managed to stick.
i think the hypocritical populist part is about right
Because he had nice things?

Nate Silver is projecting a 296-241 victory for Obama. He's on "Countdown" now.
It goes beyond nice, but that's not all of it.

Not only that, but when he's not running for something he suddenly drops out of sight. Not exactly a tireless defender of the working man.

Feingold is the real deal, and walks the walk. Interestingly enough, he had some comments on Edwards:

http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/0 ... the-record
In an interview published this past Thursday, populist US Senator Russ Feingold accused John Edwards of ideological patent infringement:

"The one that is the most problematic is (John) Edwards, who voted for the Patriot Act, campaigns against it. Voted for No Child Left Behind, campaigns against it. Voted for the China trade deal, campaigns against it. Voted for the Iraq war … He uses my voting record exactly as his platform, even though he had the opposite voting record.

When you had the opportunity to vote a certain way in the Senate and you didn’t, and obviously there are times when you make a mistake, the notion that you sort of vote one way when you’re playing the game in Washington and another way when you’re running for president, there’s some of that going on."

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Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD

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pop_haines wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:
Because he had nice things?

Nate Silver is projecting a 296-241 victory for Obama. He's on "Countdown" now.
I was thinking steeper than that. Closer to 325-213. Of course, I'm just being a wishful thinker.
It will be as close as 2000 and 2004 and the GOP has maybe the worst candidate
since Bush and they still have a reasonable shot at winning. This should be a
frackin' LANDSLIDE and yet it will be tightly contested. Omg.

It boggles my mind; it really does.

C'mon America, please prove me wrong.
I'll never understand it. I don't know whether it's because he has a funny name, the way he looks, maybe the Clintons had an effect, Jeremiah Wright, his inexperience. Whatever it is, it really worries me that 40%+ of Americans still support John McCain. Really freaking worries me.

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By the way, Edwards was scathing about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky:

http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_ ... ds_in_1999

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PujolJunkie wrote:
pop_haines wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:
Because he had nice things?

Nate Silver is projecting a 296-241 victory for Obama. He's on "Countdown" now.
I was thinking steeper than that. Closer to 325-213. Of course, I'm just being a wishful thinker.
It will be as close as 2000 and 2004 and the GOP has maybe the worst candidate
since Bush and they still have a reasonable shot at winning. This should be a
frackin' LANDSLIDE and yet it will be tightly contested. Omg.

It boggles my mind; it really does.

C'mon America, please prove me wrong.
I'll never understand it. I don't know whether it's because he has a funny name, the way he looks, maybe the Clintons had an effect, Jeremiah Wright, his inexperience. Whatever it is, it really worries me that 40%+ of Americans still support John McCain. Really freaking worries me.
Either party would get 40% of the vote, even in a landslide, so that doesn't surprise me. Heck, Mondale got 40% against Reagan. Plus, McCain is clearly the most palatable and competitive of the Republican candidates emerging from the primaries. Had Romney won, the Republicans would have no hope of winning the White House.

It's probably not going to be a landslide presidential election, although the Democrats will crush the Republicans in House and Senate races, and enjoy massive Congressional majorities. I'm thinking Obama will win, particularly if he can seem palatable and unthreatening to many independent voters.

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sighyoung wrote:By the way, Edwards was scathing about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky:

http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_ ... ds_in_1999
That's quite the find.

Am I being cynical if I think most of these guys do this kind of thing? I imagine it goes along with the sort of personality that is attracted to power.

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Here's another tidbit: a 2007 Time Magazine piece written by Bob Shrum, a political consultant for John Kerry's presidential campaign in 2004.

Read, especially, page two, with the paragraph beginning:
Kerry talked with several potential picks
It's scary stuff.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 98,00.html

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sighyoung wrote:Read, especially, page two, with the paragraph beginning:
Kerry talked with several potential picks
It's scary stuff.
Wow. What a slimeball.

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PujolJunkie wrote:
pop_haines wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:
Because he had nice things?

Nate Silver is projecting a 296-241 victory for Obama. He's on "Countdown" now.
I was thinking steeper than that. Closer to 325-213. Of course, I'm just being a wishful thinker.
It will be as close as 2000 and 2004 and the GOP has maybe the worst candidate
since Bush and they still have a reasonable shot at winning. This should be a
frackin' LANDSLIDE and yet it will be tightly contested. Omg.

It boggles my mind; it really does.

C'mon America, please prove me wrong.
I'll never understand it. I don't know whether it's because he has a funny name, the way he looks, maybe the Clintons had an effect, Jeremiah Wright, his inexperience. Whatever it is, it really worries me that 40%+ of Americans still support John McCain. Really freaking worries me.
Here's a pundit who argues that a 5% lead would lead to an Electoral College landslide.

For what it's worth:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-nick ... 17525.html

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I thought this was pretty good - the mother of Paris Hilton responds to McCain's "Obama the celebrity" ad.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-hil ... 16593.html
I've been asked again and again for my response to the now infamous McCain celebrity ad. I actually have three responses. It is a complete waste of the money John McCain's contributors have donated to his campaign. It is a complete waste of the country's time and attention at the very moment when millions of people are losing their homes and their jobs. And it is a completely frivolous way to choose the next President of the United States.

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