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wouldnt there at least be a worker that could identify walt as the last person to enter hector salamancas room before it blew up?
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Maybe. But, really, the people that work at nurses desks or front offices in these places either see 100's of people pass them everyday or don't see anything because they're not looking at anything except what's right in front of them.

I think you're trying to hard here. You could play the "what if" game all day. Maybe the nurses died in the explosion. Maybe no one saw Walt go in. Maybe aliens stole the video evidence. Maybe they're trying to end the show in a handful of episodes that won't address every conceivable hole in the plot. It is a TV show after all. Just go with it and enjoy it!

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saw him at the ryman a lil while back...yea he's jacked these days

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Does anyone know if any special TV or sporting event is happening tonight? Dexter, The Newsroom and Ray Donavan are all taking tonight off and ive never seen that before from HBO and SHOTIME shows. Anyone have any idea what could make that happen?

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StL wrote:Does anyone know if any special TV or sporting event is happening tonight? Dexter, The Newsroom and Ray Donavan are all taking tonight off and ive never seen that before from HBO and SHOTIME shows. Anyone have any idea what could make that happen?
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The thingnis breaking bad isn't based on real events. Its not a real investigation. Blowing up a nursing home, if it actually happened, would have brought so much attention/heat on Walt that they would have found him. Bombers tend to attract the headlines and therefore also a ton of the feds, not just dea, resources.

Anyway, suffice it to say hank wants more than anything to catch Walt. If he could go talk to Hector's nurse w a pic of Walt, he'd probably done that already. If that's all it takes, hanks competency is severely brought into question and the premise of the entire show starts yo unravel. Bad ass dea agent vs super sly wicked smaht chemist....except the idea agent can't catch a cold.

While were talking about things that you just have to kind of assume in order to let the show go on...as is. Walt's first job. He started a company worth like billions of dollars. And sold everything for 5k or whatever before it got big. But Jes still a brilliant chemist. And the owner isnt above givong him tons of money. Is there any particular reason walt didn't just jump back into the company in some role when it took off?

Also, there's no way that train actually stops and doesn't hit the truck on the tracks. That whole scene is a physical impossibility.

I'm sure there is a lot more stuff.

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Well, sure. There's plenty of plotholes. The central conceit of Walt's story is that he, and only he, is capable of making high quality meth. That's the entire reason he's been able to advance as far as he has in such a short time, and his given him most of his leverage. But I don't see that as being very realistic.
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I'm not even suggesting this is a plothole. My only argument is the idea I've seen here and there - that Walt now has Hank pinned down. It's a good move, but most of the impact was how surprising it was. The writers (if they wanted to) have plenty of options if they wanted to turn it back around on Walt. There's a combination of circumstantial evidence and potential eyewitness testimony against Walt. If Hank found this out in real life, he'd be in his office tracking down phone records, getting subpoenas for security cameras, going back over drug related crimes in the past year, etc..... and one of the things he'd do is question Walt's known associates, which is pretty much what he's doing now.

More to the point - there's no evidence at all for Walt's claims about Hank outside of some hospital bills. That's pretty thin as far as evidence goes. Especially considering that requires a jury to believe a drug kingpin would have one of his underlings pay for his bills. Hank could just as easily draw attention to where Walt got the money for the hospital bills.
I've noticed the previews for the next episodes are getting more and more vague. They're almost like Mad Men previews now.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:The thingnis breaking bad isn't based on real events. Its not a real investigation. Blowing up a nursing home, if it actually happened, would have brought so much attention/heat on Walt that they would have found him. Bombers tend to attract the headlines and therefore also a ton of the feds, not just dea, resources.

Anyway, suffice it to say hank wants more than anything to catch Walt. If he could go talk to Hector's nurse w a pic of Walt, he'd probably done that already. If that's all it takes, hanks competency is severely brought into question and the premise of the entire show starts yo unravel. Bad ass dea agent vs super sly wicked smaht chemist....except the idea agent can't catch a cold.

While were talking about things that you just have to kind of assume in order to let the show go on...as is. Walt's first job. He started a company worth like billions of dollars. And sold everything for 5k or whatever before it got big. But Jes still a brilliant chemist. And the owner isnt above givong him tons of money. Is there any particular reason walt didn't just jump back into the company in some role when it took off?

Also, there's no way that train actually stops and doesn't hit the truck on the tracks. That whole scene is a physical impossibility.

I'm sure there is a lot more stuff.
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But you are correct that the show is not tremendously realistic. The whole business with stealing the methylamine from the train struck me as an enormous contrivance. But it's a good show, so we watch.

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I really struggle with suspension of disbelief, but if you are complaining about it wrt Breaking Bad, you need to just stop watching television and movies.

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