TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[go birds]

I wonder if some point they will tell us what happened with him and grey matter.

...or have they already and i just completely missed it?

[Vidor]

I wonder if some point they will tell us what happened with him and grey matter.

...or have they already and i just completely missed it?

They have not, other than stating some argument took place over a 4th of July weekend and Walt left all of a sudden and the buyout occurred thereafter.

I thought it was implied that there was a love triangle between Walt, the chick that played Susan on "Friends", and the other Gray Matter guy. We're shown in a flashback in the first season that Walt and her were flirting pretty heavily, but at some point she wound up married to the other guy.

[go birds]

yea i guess thatll suffice.

saw this on the interwebz

[SHOW]

[Cole Burns]

I honestly don't get the hate for Skylar. And I think the writers used that phone call from Walt to sort of play off of that. At first, people are like, "Yeah, finally - he's letting her have it." Then you realize what he's doing and you're like, "Oh, I see...he still loves her."

[Jocephus]

I honestly don't get the hate for Skylar. And I think the writers used that phone call from Walt to sort of play off of that. At first, people are like, "Yeah, finally - he's letting her have it." Then you realize what he's doing and you're like, "Oh, I see...he still loves her."

the actress recently wrote an article wondering why she gets so much hate

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opini ... .html?_r=0

[Vidor]

Skyler was written as unsympathetic and kind of [expletive] in the first season, really. I remember the scene where she's giving Walt a birthday handjob and can't even be bothered to pay full attention to it. Then there was the scene later where she hassles him about buying a sports car when at the same time they are acquiring a car wash.

But there is some misogyny there as well, as well as a desire to side with the protagonist.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I never knew that there was hatred towards Skyler. Really, yeah, she's kind of [expletive]. At the same time, her husband is cooking meth. I mean....she probably acted like a lot of people would have. If there was a bell curve of how to act, with one extreme being I'm going straight to the cops and reporting everything and the other being teach me how to cook meth myself so I can take over when you die of cancer she's probably right there where I would imagine most people would be. Support for the sinner, but disapproval of the sin so to speak.

It's stuff like this though that drives me nuts.

The only way to really know what the writers/producers intended from that phone call is to get it from them. Was that an act of love, apparently Walt's final one, that absolves Skyler from any wrongdoing? Or is that a new man, beyond Heisenberg's level of evil, that was talking? A man born when Heisenberg's empire fell, when Hank died and when Skyler (again) betrayed him and told Walt Jr/refused to go with him? You can make a case for either one.

[ghostrunner]

She realized what he was doing halfway into the call, which is why she dropped the harsh tone and said "sorry."

[JL21]

I loved Gilligan's take on the fan reaction to Skyler:

I like Skyler a little less now that she’s succumbed to Walt’s machinations, but in the early days she was the voice of morality on the show. She was the one telling him, “You can’t cook crystal meth.” She’s got a tough job being married to this [expletive]. And this, by the way, is why I should avoid the Internet at all costs. People are griping about Skyler White being too much of a killjoy to her meth-cooking, murdering husband? She’s telling him not to be a murderer and a guy who cooks drugs for kids. How could you have a problem with that?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

She realized what he was doing halfway into the call, which is why she dropped the harsh tone and said "sorry."

You do realize Walt

[SHOW]

Kidnapped his own daughter, right? This isn't some genius yet diabolical mastermind anymore. He went insane. Went from just wanting a quick, painless death for Jesse to telling Jesse he watched Jane die just to torture him and allowing the skinheads to torture him as well. He may/may not have made that call to absolve Skyler on purpose, but it's quite a leap, imo, to say he went from being completely evil (torturing Jesse, wrestling Skyler, kidnapping Holly) to thoughtful and caring...especially when the tone and dialogue suggest 100% otherwise.

Again, this is why I hate stuff like this. Yeah, some people say it was his final act of love, all done to absolve skyler and make it easier for her to live the rest of her life...as [expletive] up as it may be. Others say he is just pure evil. Which is it? I don't know, it's not real, so unless the producer tells you, you'll never be 100% certain.