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lukethedrifter wrote:7 people killed in Arkansas last night from storms and tornadoes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ansas.html

Sucks.

lukethedrifter wrote:7 people killed in Arkansas last night from storms and tornadoes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ansas.html

Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.

Faceman wrote:

lukethedrifter wrote:7 people killed in Arkansas last night from storms and tornadoes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ansas.html

Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.

That doesn't even make any sense.

I've read this entire thread & still don't understand the point AW is trying to make. Do you think that as technology has evolved it allows metorologists to give us a better idea when and where a tornado may form? They are simply WARNING us, if you feel the need to not apply the warning to yourself, don't come crying when your house blows off it's foundation even though the person who lives 100 yards from your house isn't touched. That just shows you how unpredictable these storms can be and why they must apply these warnings to wide areas and even though you MAY not even see a tornado.

I think I'll take their advice and hang out in the basement for a half hour until the warning passes.

cardinalkarp wrote: don't understand the point AW is trying to make.

Tornado warnings are overused because they are too broad. You don't need to issue a warning 30 miles from where the tornado is/possibly is. Further, when you do that, people stop taking heed of your warning. That is why there are watches. The more predictable tornadoes become, the more pointed the warnings should be and the more meaning they should have, not less as is happening now.

Further, I'm not talking about 100 yards (I don't need an address for the warning to be effective), I'm talking about 20 miles or more which is what happens when the NWS issues warnings. For instance, I don't think if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant, Fenton would be in immediate danger of a tornado. But, the announcement would be St. Louis CO under a tornado warning nevertheless. And, if they do it near St. Louis like they do in Little Rock, the sirens would be blowing both places even though the storm could/would possibly be past Fenton already.

These storms can move in excess of 50-60 mph, what is the bad thing about having a 20 minute warning for a tornado? Or would you rather have 5 min to get your family & supplies together to get ready for the possible tornado?

cardinalkarp wrote:These storms can move in excess of 50-60 mph, what is the bad thing about having a 20 minute warning for a tornado? Or would you rather have 5 min to get your family & supplies together to get ready for the possible tornado?

Well, you can predict/warn the path, that's helpful.

But, to use the earlier reference, to warn Fenton they're going to experience a tornado just because Florrisant is seems wrong unless storms start moving south instead of northeast. No?

And tornadic storms can typically cover a large area. The fact is they can just tell if the storm has a distinct possibly to spawn a tornado, if it has that ability then issue a warning for the area. It's the people who are fools who will be out on their porches when the tornado drops down in their front yard.

cardinalkarp wrote:And tornadic storms can typically cover a large area. The fact is they can just tell if the storm has a distinct possibly to spawn a tornado, if it has that ability then issue a warning for the area. It's the people who are fools who will be out on their porches when the tornado drops down in their front yard.

Almost all stormas have the ability to spawn a tornado though. So, do you think all thunderstorm warnings, which they have gotten good at predicting, should just go ahead and be tornado warnings?

AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:

cardinalkarp wrote:And tornadic storms can typically cover a large area. The fact is they can just tell if the storm has a distinct possibly to spawn a tornado, if it has that ability then issue a warning for the area. It's the people who are fools who will be out on their porches when the tornado drops down in their front yard.

Almost all stormas have the ability to spawn a tornado though. So, do you think all thunderstorm warnings, which they have gotten good at predicting, should just go ahead and be tornado warnings?

Well that's just not true.