Jon Jay

[Hungary Jack]

Waino had some really nice things to say about Jay's defense.

He will be an All-Star some day (as a backup). After Kemp, there isn't much to be excited about in the NL. McCutcheon is slowly emerging but inconsistent. Victorino is good (and one of my faves), but likely beyond his prime. With apologies to Bourn, I think Jay might be the best all-around of the bunch after Kemp.

Even on McCutchen's "inconsistent" days, he is significantly better than Jon Jay.

Yeah. 5.7 fWAR last year and 12.9 total in his first 3 seasons. Jay's 2.8 WAR in his first full season is pretty good, but not quite up to AM's 3.5 in his first year. JJ is on pace for 6 fWAR, but that result seems improbable at this point. Maybe he'll reach 4 WAR.

[cpebbles]

Give Jon Jay as many plate appearances as McCutchen racked up last season, and he's on pace for a WAR well over 9!

You know, assuming his BABIP stays well over .400 for that many plate appearances.

[Jmodene]

Avoiding hyperbole, I think we can agree that Jon Jay has done as well as, or even better, than most of us thought or even hoped. He's made himself into a productive major leaguer, and that's good.

[Hungary Jack]

It just proves my theory that guys with two first names, like John Wayne and Lance Lynn, have mystical powers.

[Popeye_Card]

Avoiding hyperbole, I think we can agree that Jon Jay has done as well as, or even better, than most of us thought or even hoped. He's made himself into a productive major leaguer, and that's good.

For a guy I don't think anyone expected to be all that much, I'll take a league-average type of CF. I think it is just as important to consistently get those types of guys out of the farm system as it is to get the occasional star.

[phins]

The UUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

[Jmodene]

Avoiding hyperbole, I think we can agree that Jon Jay has done as well as, or even better, than most of us thought or even hoped. He's made himself into a productive major leaguer, and that's good.

For a guy I don't think anyone expected to be all that much, I'll take a league-average type of CF. I think it is just as important to consistently get those types of guys out of the farm system as it is to get the occasional star.

Precisely right. I think we tend to get a little spoiled by our superstars, but not every center fielder can be Jim Edmonds, much less Willie McGee. Also, I suspect that Jay probably isn't a big hit with the rotisserie crowd since he's the sort of player who does a lot of things well but isn't a big producer in any of the roto categories.

[JackofDiamonds]

Our recent CF history is the opposite of our 2b. We're okay with Skip or Craig because we haven't had anyone in that blackhole for a decade (not counting the 2006 playoffs, what up Ronnie Belliard in short RF).