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Re: Artificial intelligence
Posted: April 30 26, 2:57 pm
by Popeye_Card
I think AI is viewed as a pinnacle technological achievement. I think it is actually the pinnacle achievement of capitalism. We have over 8 billion people on this planet. Instead of developing technology to lift billions out of poverty, we are trying to put as many people out of work as possible - so that the rich can squeeze a few more dollars of value out of their corporations.
Maybe Elon is right, and nobody will need money in a future society where AI is doing all of the work. But then what are 10+ billion people (by that time) going to do all day when they don't have to work?
Re: Artificial intelligence
Posted: April 30 26, 3:45 pm
by cardinalkarp
They don’t want to pay people now FOR working, what in the world would make us think they are going to provide some universal high income or whatever the f he calls it for people to do nothing.
I’ll answer my own question, they won’t.
Re: Artificial intelligence
Posted: April 30 26, 9:46 pm
by pioneer98
Popeye_Card wrote: ↑April 30 26, 2:57 pm
I think AI is viewed as a pinnacle technological achievement. I think it is actually the pinnacle achievement of capitalism. We have over 8 billion people on this planet. Instead of developing technology to lift billions out of poverty, we are trying to put as many people out of work as possible - so that the rich can squeeze a few more dollars of value out of their corporations.
Maybe Elon is right, and nobody will need money in a future society where AI is doing all of the work. But then what are 10+ billion people (by that time) going to do all day when they don't have to work?
People are still going to work, it just won't be wage labor. I mean, people
already do all kinds of work today outside of wage labor. We're still going to have to raise kids, do household chores, tend yards and gardens, care for disabled family members and friends, participate in civic functions, and so on.
The type of work we pay people to do is arbitrary, because in some cases we DO pay people to do the kind of work described above. Some people pay nannies to care for their children, pay people to mow their lawn, and pay nurses to care for their elderly relative. But when a family member does this same exact kind of labor, they do it for free. The bulk of this unpaid labor I'm describing here is done by women, so it's also a patriarchy thing in addition to a capitalism thing.
A partial solution to millions of people suddenly being unemployed could be to recognize the huge amount of labor people do that is currently unpaid, and start paying them for it. That's probably not going to be a complete solution to this problem, but it's a start.
Re: Artificial intelligence
Posted: May 1 26, 4:50 am
by Popeye_Card
cardinalkarp wrote: ↑April 30 26, 3:45 pm
They don’t want to pay people now FOR working, what in the world would make us think they are going to provide some universal high income or whatever the f he calls it for people to do nothing.
I’ll answer my own question, they won’t.
A year ago Elon seemed to thoroughly enjoy laying off tens of thousands of workers, and slash aid programs. Now we are supposed to believe he and the other oligarchs want to have a utopian socialist society? It is especially hilarious coming from him.
Re: Artificial intelligence
Posted: May 13 26, 12:17 pm
by felix_sorcem29
pioneer98 wrote: ↑June 7 16, 11:22 pm
First we had Microsoft's AI Twitter account rapidly turn into a sociopath, and now this:
Elite's AI Created Super Weapons and Started Hunting Players. Skynet is Here.
It all started after Frontier released the 2.1 Engineers update. The release improved the game's AI, making the higher ranked NPCs that would fly around Elite's galaxy more formidable foes. As well as improving their competence in dog fights, the update allowed the AI to use interdiction hardware to pull players travelling at jump speed into normal space. The AI also had access to one of 2.1's big features: crafting.
These three things combined made the AI a significant threat to players. They were better in fights, could pull unwary jump travellers into a brawl, and they could attack them with upgraded weapons.
There was something else going on, though. The AI was crafting super weapons that the designers had never intended.
Players would be pulled into fights against ships armed with ridiculous weapons that would cut them to pieces. "It appears that the unusual weapons attacks were caused by some form of networking issue which allowed the NPC AI to merge weapon stats and abilities," according to a post written by Frontier community manager Zac Antonaci. "Meaning that all new and never before seen (sometimes devastating) weapons were created, such as a rail gun with the fire rate of a pulse laser. These appear to have been compounded by the additional stats and abilities of the engineers weaponry."
Every few years people rediscover “AI is becoming Skynet” and panic again
Half the time it’s just buggy code doing insane unintended crap. Still funny imagining NPCs out there crafting doom lasers though lol.
Half the time it’s just buggy code doing insane unintended crap. Still funny imagining NPCs out there crafting doom lasers though lol.