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I said I'd go 4/84. I think he's a safe bet for 10 wins the next four years. If he opts out, good. If not he won't be more of an albatross than Holliday last year that still allowed them to aggressively pursue Price and Heyward. Good deal.

Now focus on the real defensive issue. Third base.

I like it. It fills an immediate need.

Wait, I thought Mo wasn't capable and Fowler hated Matheny. I'm sure some hate being wrong.

cardsfantx wrote:

Fan_In_NY wrote:

AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: Mars great and all but he's not a great 3 hole hitter. And by that I mean, when compared to other 3 hole hitters he's among the worst in the NL...not that he can't hit well in that position....which he hasn't

Last year the average 3-hitter batted .277/.351/.476/.826
Matt Carpenter over the last 2 years has hit .271/.372/.505/.877

So better in getting on base and power than the average 3-hitter.

I don't think those are carpenter's numbers when he's batting 3rd, which is what he's saying.

Carp seems to have some mental thing where he only hits well in the leadoff spot. Of course he's never left in other spots long enough to see for sure.

I'd like to see Marp batting second.

Radbird wrote:

cardsfantx wrote:

Fan_In_NY wrote:

AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: Mars great and all but he's not a great 3 hole hitter. And by that I mean, when compared to other 3 hole hitters he's among the worst in the NL...not that he can't hit well in that position....which he hasn't

Last year the average 3-hitter batted .277/.351/.476/.826
Matt Carpenter over the last 2 years has hit .271/.372/.505/.877

So better in getting on base and power than the average 3-hitter.

I don't think those are carpenter's numbers when he's batting 3rd, which is what he's saying.

Carp seems to have some mental thing where he only hits well in the leadoff spot. Of course he's never left in other spots long enough to see for sure.

I'd like to see Marp batting second.

Me too. I want him and fowler batting back to back.

Radbird wrote:I'd like to see Marp batting second.

Yeah. Piscotty 3rd, unless we sign someone else.

Fat Strat wrote:

Radbird wrote:I'd like to see Marp batting second.

Yeah. Piscotty 3rd, unless we sign someone else.

Any interest in Bautista or Encarnacion?

BW23 wrote:Wait, I thought Mo wasn't capable and Fowler hated Matheny. I'm sure some hate being wrong.

Did someone said he hated Matheny or that he didn't want to play with Matheny PER reports?

And maybe he doesn't want to play for Matheny, but money talks.

dmarx114 wrote:

Radbird wrote:

cardsfantx wrote:

Fan_In_NY wrote:

AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: Mars great and all but he's not a great 3 hole hitter. And by that I mean, when compared to other 3 hole hitters he's among the worst in the NL...not that he can't hit well in that position....which he hasn't

Last year the average 3-hitter batted .277/.351/.476/.826
Matt Carpenter over the last 2 years has hit .271/.372/.505/.877

So better in getting on base and power than the average 3-hitter.

I don't think those are carpenter's numbers when he's batting 3rd, which is what he's saying.

Carp seems to have some mental thing where he only hits well in the leadoff spot. Of course he's never left in other spots long enough to see for sure.

I'd like to see Marp batting second.

Me too. I want him and fowler batting back to back.

Marp like to look at a lot of pitches, so that would give Fowler a chance to run.

Tim wrote:

BW23 wrote:Wait, I thought Mo wasn't capable and Fowler hated Matheny. I'm sure some hate being wrong.

Did someone said he hated Matheny or that he didn't want to play with Matheny PER reports?

And maybe he doesn't want to play for Matheny, but money talks.

Or maybe the whole thing was BS?