First world problems

[The Third Man]

I know that name but I'm pretty sure I've never rubbed one out to this chick.

[cardsfansince82]

I did not really have a long discussion about her career.

Her exact line was (spoiled for filthiness)

[SHOW]

I can't make money anymore because of pornhub, I haven't f***ed on camera in 2 years, now I just let rich b****es suck my c*** for 5 g a go.

That is a word for word quote. First world problems. It was a rather odd conversation since she was visibly upset that I wasn't really aware of who she was. I mean, come on, if I'm goin to that site, I'm not exactly looking for the names of the flesh onscreen.

So then she is not really a porn star but a hooker?

Most of them do both and make way more money. No way she could charge anywhere close to 5 Gs if she wasn't already famous.

[heyzeus]

She looks like any other porn chick ever.

[The Third Man]

She looks like any other porn chick ever.

There are some mighty comely lasses in porn these days.



Heck, Tiffany Thompson here could pass for the hottest girl next door you've ever seen. Until you watch her suck and [expletive] and get [expletive] all over her [expletive] and stick [expletive] in her ass.

(It's posts like these that make me love the filter here.)

[planet planet]

She looks like any other porn chick ever.

There are some mighty comely lasses in porn these days.



Heck, Tiffany Thompson here could pass for the hottest girl next door you've ever seen. Until you watch her suck and [expletive] and get [expletive] all over her [expletive] and stick [expletive] in her ass.

(It's posts like these that make me love the filter here.)

Doesn't it make you feel a little bit bad for these girls though?

[The Third Man]

Doesn't it make you feel a little bit bad for these girls though?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/cult ... stars.html

The first problem with taking this narrative as characteristic is that, unlike Lovelace, most people now aren’t led into porn by manipulative spouses or other terrible circumstances. Although the myth of “falling into porn” persists, it just doesn’t happen for a majority of performers anymore. Quite the contrary: Getting a start in porn these days generally takes sending in applications to studios or at least the willingness to film it yourself and post it to the Internet.

I’ve wanted to be in porn since middle school, when I understood that performers made each other and audiences feel good for money. It seemed like an honest use of time; plus, all the popular kids thought it was cool. When I was old enough to do it, I waited for over a decade, thinking about my reasons for wanting to participate before I actually decided I was ready.

All the women in porn I know have similar stories. More representative than Lovelace are contemporary and prolific performers like Sovereign Syre. “Every step of the way was a conscious transition,” she told me. Her “erotic journey” began when, after leaving grad school to write a novel, she started appearing on an online modeling site and progressed to porn slowly and thoughtfully from there.

The career path for women in porn has changed to allow this sort of careful consideration since Lovelace’s time, but these improvements are in large part due to women like Sovereign Syre, not people who hold anti-porn sentiments. “It’s one of the few jobs where women are empowered to be financially and emotionally independent and that terrifies people,” Syre said.

Seen in this light, porn is far more consciously chosen than many other jobs. Although stable careers in finance, technology, etc. are often encouraged by cultural pressure and expectation, porn—a profession that potentially carries so much social stigma—requires serious decision-making.

[...]

Making porn is fun some days, not fun others. Sometimes you feel you get paid what you’re owed, sometimes you don’t. Some studios are filled with attentive and nice people, some are filled with irresponsible and unresponsive ones. In other words, in many respects, it’s like any other job. In fact, if there is a big difference between porn and other work, it’s that so many people outside the industry have been taught to believe that there must be something sinister happening within it.

[...]

But the hundreds of well-adjusted and happy porn stars I’ve interacted with and the tens of thousands of porn stars who live less sensationalized lives than Lovelace are testament to the fact that her story is not ours. Porn is mostly populated by people who aren’t victims, who have made thoughtful choices, and who won’t be climaxing with regret.

[planet planet]

Doesn't it make you feel a little bit bad for these girls though?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/cult ... stars.html

The first problem with taking this narrative as characteristic is that, unlike Lovelace, most people now aren’t led into porn by manipulative spouses or other terrible circumstances. Although the myth of “falling into porn” persists, it just doesn’t happen for a majority of performers anymore. Quite the contrary: Getting a start in porn these days generally takes sending in applications to studios or at least the willingness to film it yourself and post it to the Internet.

I’ve wanted to be in porn since middle school, when I understood that performers made each other and audiences feel good for money. It seemed like an honest use of time; plus, all the popular kids thought it was cool. When I was old enough to do it, I waited for over a decade, thinking about my reasons for wanting to participate before I actually decided I was ready.

All the women in porn I know have similar stories. More representative than Lovelace are contemporary and prolific performers like Sovereign Syre. “Every step of the way was a conscious transition,” she told me. Her “erotic journey” began when, after leaving grad school to write a novel, she started appearing on an online modeling site and progressed to porn slowly and thoughtfully from there.

The career path for women in porn has changed to allow this sort of careful consideration since Lovelace’s time, but these improvements are in large part due to women like Sovereign Syre, not people who hold anti-porn sentiments. “It’s one of the few jobs where women are empowered to be financially and emotionally independent and that terrifies people,” Syre said.

Seen in this light, porn is far more consciously chosen than many other jobs. Although stable careers in finance, technology, etc. are often encouraged by cultural pressure and expectation, porn—a profession that potentially carries so much social stigma—requires serious decision-making.

[...]

Making porn is fun some days, not fun others. Sometimes you feel you get paid what you’re owed, sometimes you don’t. Some studios are filled with attentive and nice people, some are filled with irresponsible and unresponsive ones. In other words, in many respects, it’s like any other job. In fact, if there is a big difference between porn and other work, it’s that so many people outside the industry have been taught to believe that there must be something sinister happening within it.

[...]

But the hundreds of well-adjusted and happy porn stars I’ve interacted with and the tens of thousands of porn stars who live less sensationalized lives than Lovelace are testament to the fact that her story is not ours. Porn is mostly populated by people who aren’t victims, who have made thoughtful choices, and who won’t be climaxing with regret.

OK, that sounds like major justification (and jaded) to me, as well as people who know they're going to face an uphill battle with employment when they get older.

[The Third Man]

Well, I mean, if you just write off that perspective, I'm not sure how to advance this argument. Suffice it to say that I find the cliche of the daddy-issue-drug-habit porn star/call girl probably false, not to mention incredibly annoying and usually sexist (since nobody ever assumes that the male porn star is some bundle of psychological issues and that only women who are headcases would want to [expletive] on camera for money). I certainly don't buy that they're any more screwed up than the average small-time actor or struggling musician or whoever. Entertainment is a tough career.

[Maclowery]

I didn't really mean to start a big philosophical debate regarding porn stars, I just thought it was worth sharing that I served one, who was complaining about her career changing due to no one paying for internet porno anymore. Seemed like a fitting first world problem.

That gal certainly had no moral qualms with her career as a sex worker, on camera or off. She was sober, seemed healthy, and apparently makes a ton more money than I do. I'm not defending the exploitation business as a whole - there are certainly lots of seedy and creepy sides to it - but as Freed said, it's the oldest profession. I never thought I'd be a bartender when I was a kid. I don't see why I should feel bad for that chick making six figures for doin the nasty.

[The Third Man]

I have a $40 Buckle gift card I found on the ground. I like nothing in that store.