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Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 5:20 pm
by Serpent
Martin has a very hateable face.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 5:24 pm
by lukethedrifter
a_smith wrote:While the Brewers have had some interesting splits it doesn't seem implausible.
I do find the idea that they are stealing signs and teams are sure that they are and then saying something in the media funny.
If are doing this all you need to do is put a sign for a changeup away and put a fastball high and tight. That gets the message pretty quick.
Or if they are doing it, then document it and use it get some suspensions.
Besides I thought the brewers cheating had more to do with needles and asses.
Where is Cpebbles when you need him to fan the flames of Brewers cheating
I certainly miss his (com)bus(tion).
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 10:53 pm
by signthief
cardinalkarp wrote:signthief wrote:cardinalkarp wrote:If they are stealing signs & identifiying the pitch to the batter via something on the scoreboard I would definitely say that's against the rules.
I would agree.
I also have a bridge to sell you if you believe this is happening (not you personally, you generally).
This wasn't my bright idea, I was just summarizing this:
Now this isn't the first time the Brewers have been accused of stealing signs. Former St. Louis Cardinals' manager Tony La Russa suggested that something was going on with the scoreboard lights to help tip hitters off as to what pitch was coming next. Cardinal pitcher Chris Carpenter also accused Brewer base runners of relaying signs to hitters, and La Russa went as far as filing a complaint.
And you for some reason act as though you have more insight to the situation than the guys on the field. Your sad sack of a team now has multiple teams & players basically accusing them of cheating, you just find that a coincidence? Oh and the only place they seem to dominate is at Miller Park, again...everyone is just making [expletive] up.
Ugh.
Fine. Yes, the Brewers are so smart that they're the only squad that can figure out how to cheat effectively.
Christ.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 10:54 pm
by signthief
a_smith wrote:While the Brewers have had some interesting splits it doesn't seem implausible.
I do find the idea that they are stealing signs and teams are sure that they are and then saying something in the media funny.
If are doing this all you need to do is put a sign for a changeup away and put a fastball high and tight. That gets the message pretty quick.
Or if they are doing it, then document it and use it get some suspensions.
Besides I thought the brewers cheating had more to do with needles and asses.
Where is Cpebbles when you need him to fan the flames of Brewers cheating
Ryan Braun is clean.
/sarcasm
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 10:57 pm
by docellis
when you google "Dale Sveum is a sex trafficker" another message board is listed. It is entertaining.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 11:24 pm
by AWvsCBsteeeerike3
signthief wrote:cardinalkarp wrote:signthief wrote:cardinalkarp wrote:If they are stealing signs & identifiying the pitch to the batter via something on the scoreboard I would definitely say that's against the rules.
I would agree.
I also have a bridge to sell you if you believe this is happening (not you personally, you generally).
This wasn't my bright idea, I was just summarizing this:
Now this isn't the first time the Brewers have been accused of stealing signs. Former St. Louis Cardinals' manager Tony La Russa suggested that something was going on with the scoreboard lights to help tip hitters off as to what pitch was coming next. Cardinal pitcher Chris Carpenter also accused Brewer base runners of relaying signs to hitters, and La Russa went as far as filing a complaint.
And you for some reason act as though you have more insight to the situation than the guys on the field. Your sad sack of a team now has multiple teams & players basically accusing them of cheating, you just find that a coincidence? Oh and the only place they seem to dominate is at Miller Park, again...everyone is just making [expletive] up.
Ugh.
Fine. Yes, the Brewers are so smart that they're the only squad that can figure out how to cheat effectively.
Christ.
With the brewers, there's such a huge home road split it's beyond statistical reasoning, but mlb does nothing. That's fine. Using logistics to prove anything here seems futile. The fact is the Brewers were better at home by an unexplainable statistically speaking rate. That doesn't mean they were cheating. But they also have been accused of cheating by a couple different teams now. The Cardinals are one of those teams.
Does it mean anything? No. But, at the same time, it doesn't happen to every team and the record speaks for itself.
PS. Ryan Braun is a cheater, already.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 2 13, 11:42 pm
by haltz
Also, Moose Haas is a practicing necrophile.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 3 13, 9:15 am
by pioneer98
Well, I thought the accusation that La Russa made about the scoreboard was more that it was much brighter when the Brewers were hitting and much dimmer when the visitors were batting. I didn't think it was about relaying signs. Maybe my memory is off. But I thought they were saying they were lighting things up to make the ball easier for Brewers hitters to see, and then dimming the scoreboard to make it tougher for visiting batters to see when they came up.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 3 13, 1:48 pm
by cardinalkarp
pioneer98 wrote:Well, I thought the accusation that La Russa made about the scoreboard was more that it was much brighter when the Brewers were hitting and much dimmer when the visitors were batting. I didn't think it was about relaying signs. Maybe my memory is off. But I thought they were saying they were lighting things up to make the ball easier for Brewers hitters to see, and then dimming the scoreboard to make it tougher for visiting batters to see when they came up.
This paragraph suggests differently:
Now this isn't the first time the Brewers have been accused of stealing signs. Former St. Louis Cardinals' manager Tony La Russa suggested that something was going on with the scoreboard lights to help tip hitters off as to what pitch was coming next. Cardinal pitcher Chris Carpenter also accused Brewer base runners of relaying signs to hitters, and La Russa went as far as filing a complaint.
And I was just going off of what this paragraph was stating & signthief decided to act like I was some sort of gullible idiot.
Re: Brewers are Stealing Signs
Posted: May 3 13, 3:08 pm
by pioneer98
Found it:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... lb,wp14755
Apparently, the Cardinals were unhappy about lighting inconsistencies with the ribbon board that surrounds the stands above the loge level. The insinuation was that the home plate area was darker when they were batting than when the Brewers were batting.