Marcell Ozuna Watch - (Update: Traded to Cards Pg. 13)

[Socnorb11]

I guess the point here is that none of us want to see guys like Matt Adams in the outfield. So let's make sure that we have plenty of "actual" outfield depth, to avoid the temptation to do that.

[Jocephus]

Who does the FO rate higher in the organization, Bader or O'Neil?
by BT 1:09 PM yesterday

Bader has more efensive flexibility and speed. O'Neill has more power. Bader figures to stick more than O'Neill as an extra outfielder.
by rhummel 1:10 PM yesterday

[Socnorb11]

I wonder if O'Neill could be transitioned to 1st base. The Cardinals desperately need some power depth at that position.

[Popeye_Card]

I don't believe the Cardinals have a single outfielder in their system that's a difference maker. Maybe a guy or two that could come up and hit for some power but we're talking average regulars. And that's the ceiling for our best outfield prospect.

I think O'Neill could become a difference maker. High ceiling, low floor guy.

[Socnorb11]

Speaking of O'Neill, Marco Gonzales didn't fare all that well after being traded to the Mariners. The Cards look like the early winners of that trade.

[Big Amoco Sign]

O'Neill is better IMO. Plate discipline always wins and Bader isn't good at walking. The Randal Grichuk comp is dead on for Bader. Low walk rate and high K rate i not a good formula. His above-average defense won't outweigh his potential plate issues. O'Neill has more power and walks more than double Bader.

[Popeye_Card]

I think it clear that O’Neill ranks above Bader. I think Hummel was more speaking to who is more likely to be the 4th/5th OF on the 2018 roster.

That is, I don’t know that he answered the right question.

[Big Amoco Sign]

Grichuk is redundant so if he can be traded for a good arm, that should happen. Someone like Adam Morgan of the Phillies. In that range.

Bader and O'Neill can easily replace what we get from Grichuk. Especially if it means we can use him to get an arm.

[cardinalkarp]

Grichuk is redundant so if he can be traded for a good arm, that should happen. Someone like Adam Morgan of the Phillies. In that range.

Bader and O'Neill can easily replace what we get from Grichuk. Especially if it means we can use him to get an arm.

Bader is too short to be effective

[Farewell Friends]

Even if you leave out his 2015 season, Grichuk has an OPS+ of 99, which cannot easily be replicated.