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oh, they're there as supporters you jackass. This is what you're riling up.

pop_haines wrote:Once that Pandora's Box has been opened, it's impossible to close.

I've heard it on two different news channels as "putting the genie back in the bottle." This is why The Daily Show is so funny, it harps on the media's catch phrases, too.

I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

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maddash wrote:I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

Sure, but what did he expect after spending the last week drumming up people's fears and rage?

You get the feeling that McCain has been pushed into a negative campaign strategy by his handlers and after hearing some of the seriously scary rhetoric that's coming out at his town hall meetings, he is now regretting going along with it.

maddash wrote:I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

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Yes, it is good that he reminded them that Obama is human and capable of procreation.

Radbird wrote:Just plain weird.

Rage rising on the McCain campaign trail

While that man was foaming at the mouth about pinkos, the Bush administration was taking steps to temporarily nationalize the banking system.

I really need to re-read The Day of the Locust.

sighyoung wrote:

maddash wrote:I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

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Yes, it is good that he reminded them that Obama is human and capable of procreation.

I'm no McCain apologist, and it's clear to me that he flamed the rhetoric early on, but I also don't think his attempt to "tone down the rhetoric" should be so easily discounted either. IMO, this is not an "easy" stand for McCain to take - especially when it goes against his current campaign strategy and hurts his chances at rallying the GOP base.

Like clement pointed to, his conscious is getting the better of him.

maddash wrote:

sighyoung wrote:

maddash wrote:I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

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Yes, it is good that he reminded them that Obama is human and capable of procreation.

I'm no McCain apologist, and it's clear to me that he flamed the rhetoric early on, but I also don't think his attempt to "tone down the rhetoric" should be so easily discounted either. IMO, this is not an "easy" stand for McCain to take - especially when it goes against his current campaign strategy and hurts his chances at rallying the GOP base.

Like clement pointed to, his conscious is getting the better of him.

Obama thanks McCain--and then both return to campaigning:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 7872.story

maddash wrote:

sighyoung wrote:

maddash wrote:I respect McCain greatly for standing up to the fear driven rhetoric.

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Yes, it is good that he reminded them that Obama is human and capable of procreation.

I'm no McCain apologist, and it's clear to me that he flamed the rhetoric early on, but I also don't think his attempt to "tone down the rhetoric" should be so easily discounted either. IMO, this is not an "easy" stand for McCain to take - especially when it goes against his current campaign strategy and hurts his chances at rallying the GOP base.

Like clement pointed to, his conscious is getting the better of him.

Moments like that make me sad for McCain. He is a better man and a better politician than the campaign he's been running, which has driven his reputation into the ground with a lot of people who respected his candor and what he brought to the national discussion.

I think part of his problem is that in order to have any chance of success he has to cooperate and make enormous concessions to the GOP apparatus, the occasional oppostion to which being the foundation of his reputation as a pragmatist. Depending on it to get elected has pulled him in too many directions at once. Adding Sarah Palin to the ticket is the best example of this. I can't imagine he would even give her the time of day if his handlers hadn't cynically chosen her for VP.

David Brooks had a good column the other day that I think sums up the problems the GOP is currently facing. Link

cpebbles wrote:In short, I think by definition logic cannot lead to faith, and belief in the supernatural defies deductive reasoning. If the religious have arrived at their beliefs rationally, why is it they are still using the same few obvious logical fallacies to promote them?

Anyway, this is going off on a tangent. I just wanted to mention this because I do have anti-religious sentiments and I wanted to reinforce that they are anti-religious, not anti-Christian.

Spoken by someone who has never studied Christianity in any depth whatsoever.

And yeah, you are anti-Christian. You can't say what I just quoted without being so.