Unless someone blows you away with their top tier prospects it isn't worth trading Goldschmidt for a lottery ticket imo. He's a free agent after 2024; he isn't blocking anyone that is ready to take his job. Gorman/Walker can get plenty of ABs with the DH available. If one or both of them were Aaron Judge and you couldn't get their bats in the lineup; that is when you have to make that kind of move.
I would focus first on Montgomery; if he won't discuss extension then he should go. Flaherty won't bring much but he should probably go too unless they think they are going to sign him to a cheap 1 year deal (which would be a very Mo thing to do actually). Get rid of some of the AAAA filler that hasn't been able to translate Memphis success into MLB success and see what you have behind them. This is a year to just try and clean up the roster and then in the offseason make the big splashes if there are any available.
If you trade Montgomery, what's the purpose of holding onto Goldy for 1 more year? You're not clearing much salary space this off-season, so there's virtually no way that you're cobbling together a competitive pitching staff in 2024.
This team needs to be looking at 2025. Goldy probably shouldn't be considered as part of that equation. Get what you can for him.
Unless someone blows you away with their top tier prospects it isn't worth trading Goldschmidt for a lottery ticket imo. He's a free agent after 2024; he isn't blocking anyone that is ready to take his job. Gorman/Walker can get plenty of ABs with the DH available. If one or both of them were Aaron Judge and you couldn't get their bats in the lineup; that is when you have to make that kind of move.
I would focus first on Montgomery; if he won't discuss extension then he should go. Flaherty won't bring much but he should probably go too unless they think they are going to sign him to a cheap 1 year deal (which would be a very Mo thing to do actually). Get rid of some of the AAAA filler that hasn't been able to translate Memphis success into MLB success and see what you have behind them. This is a year to just try and clean up the roster and then in the offseason make the big splashes if there are any available.
If you trade Montgomery, what's the purpose of holding onto Goldy for 1 more year? You're not clearing much salary space this off-season, so there's virtually no way that you're cobbling together a competitive pitching staff in 2024.
This team needs to be looking at 2025. Goldy probably shouldn't be considered as part of that equation. Get what you can for him.
Because the team will probably be more competitive in 2024; unless we are punting all the way to '25. If you get blown away by a major league ready top prospect; maybe you make the deal but I don't see trading him for lottery tickets. And idgaf about salary space.
Unless someone blows you away with their top tier prospects it isn't worth trading Goldschmidt for a lottery ticket imo. He's a free agent after 2024; he isn't blocking anyone that is ready to take his job. Gorman/Walker can get plenty of ABs with the DH available. If one or both of them were Aaron Judge and you couldn't get their bats in the lineup; that is when you have to make that kind of move.
I would focus first on Montgomery; if he won't discuss extension then he should go. Flaherty won't bring much but he should probably go too unless they think they are going to sign him to a cheap 1 year deal (which would be a very Mo thing to do actually). Get rid of some of the AAAA filler that hasn't been able to translate Memphis success into MLB success and see what you have behind them. This is a year to just try and clean up the roster and then in the offseason make the big splashes if there are any available.
If you trade Montgomery, what's the purpose of holding onto Goldy for 1 more year? You're not clearing much salary space this off-season, so there's virtually no way that you're cobbling together a competitive pitching staff in 2024.
This team needs to be looking at 2025. Goldy probably shouldn't be considered as part of that equation. Get what you can for him.
If you don't believe they'll be competitive in 2024, then what would magically change in 2025? Even if our pitchers in the minors are ready by then, they shouldn't be expected to be good in their first full season.
the reality is the NL central is terrible. It will be terrible again in 2024. So I don't see the reason to just fold the next season. It's not as if they're in the AL East or even the NL East, where it's full of teams going into the season that are better. The Cardinals are probably as good as any NL Central teams as currently constructed and unless something drastically changes, will be headed into 2024, even with a bad rotation.
1. Mo doesn't want to seriously rebuild and wants to have pieces around for a run next year.
2. But the long-term, sustainable, above average wins mantra is a staple of Moz's architecture.
3. Therefore having Goldschmidt around for one year versus getting someone for maybe 7-8 years who might be ready in 2-3 years fits much better into Mo's philosophy.
Thus, Goldschmidt will likely be traded if there is at least a fair market deal.
Unless someone blows you away with their top tier prospects it isn't worth trading Goldschmidt for a lottery ticket imo. He's a free agent after 2024; he isn't blocking anyone that is ready to take his job. Gorman/Walker can get plenty of ABs with the DH available. If one or both of them were Aaron Judge and you couldn't get their bats in the lineup; that is when you have to make that kind of move.
I would focus first on Montgomery; if he won't discuss extension then he should go. Flaherty won't bring much but he should probably go too unless they think they are going to sign him to a cheap 1 year deal (which would be a very Mo thing to do actually). Get rid of some of the AAAA filler that hasn't been able to translate Memphis success into MLB success and see what you have behind them. This is a year to just try and clean up the roster and then in the offseason make the big splashes if there are any available.
Goldschmidt is the reigning NL MVP, one of the steadiest bats in the game, and still has another year at a friendly rate. He’d be the best bat available at the deadline. He wouldn’t go for just lottery tickets. If that’s all anyone is willing to offer, then yeah you keep him and hope the Cards have a bounce-back 2024.
It’s not that difficult to build next year’s pitching staff or turn things around quickly. The Cardinals have conditioned their fans to think simple fixes are impossible. This team has a million players. A lot of them could be traded for useful pitchers. They just don’t have the right front office personnel.
