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Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:00 pm
by vinsanity
Westbrook, LHRP, raise payroll by $2M and sign Lopez or Hairston.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:00 pm
by Fat Strat
The hole in the pen doesn't concern me at all. Salas, Walters, Sanchez... someone can fill that hole. What concerns me is that Lohse and McClellan would be counted on in the rotation from game 1 to game 162.

The rest would depend on what kind of 2nd baseman you're talking about trading for. Considering our budget restrictions, I can't see it being a real impact guy.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:03 pm
by clevername
I wouldn't count on Lohse for production or health, which is all the more depressing since that's presumably why he was signed to such a high value contract.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:06 pm
by cards2468
wonder how Lohse would do as a reliever?

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:22 pm
by Fat Strat
cards2468 wrote:wonder how Lohse would do as a reliever?
I want to see a competition between Lohse and McClellan next year. Lohse's salary makes turning him into a reliever an odd choice, but it might be the best for the club. Right now, I think that he would be better as a reliever than as a starter. Likewise, I think that McClellan would be better as a starter than Lohse would be as a starter. So, I give it a go in ST and see what shakes out.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:32 pm
by AWvsCBsteeeerike3
What kind of trade value does Rasmus have?

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:34 pm
by vinsanity
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:What kind of trade value does Rasmus have?
Aapparently #14 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... lue-15-11/

You could trade him, according to Fangraphs, for David Wright straight up.
But 130 OPS+ don't grow on trees. Especially not at league minimum with, what should be, plus defense in center.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:45 pm
by TimeForGuinness
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:What kind of trade value does Rasmus have?
How does that help the team?

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:51 pm
by Fat Strat
That sounds about right. He's got a ton of value because a lot of his value is tied up in his potential, his age, the position he plays, and his price tag. Those are all far better reasons to keep him than trade him. Especially since you would almost certainly be adding significant salary if you traded him for an impact player and salary is the problem for us.

Re: Early Look at 2011 Thread

Posted: September 1 10, 2:55 pm
by clevername
exactly. It would be hard enough to trade him and get equal value in return (much less better) but it would be next to impossible to do that without taking on more payroll.

he just needs to play everyday, whether that's a manager problem or a problem with him.