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Oh well. At least they'll be really, really bad and be in play for really good picks for a long time now. Go full Philly. I'm not writing Dunn off either. Go look at Jimmy Butler's numbers in his first year under Thibs. Look at any rookie in their first year under Thibs. He doesn't play rookies, period. He might suck, but it's not a foregone conclusion yet.

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Tim wrote:
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Rieges wrote:Stunning that the Bulls trade an all-star for three players that seem to have that great a shot to be all-star caliber and had to throw in their own 1st round pick to do it. My take is that they probably had the no. 3 pick on the table with Boston but didn't want to trade him there and watch him go to the conference finals again the next couple seasons and then have a good shot at the finals if LeBron decides to leave Cleveland again.

The Bulls aren't competing in the next 2 seasons, with or without Butler. They should have taken the best deal possible. I don't believe they did.
Listening to Bill Simmons post draft pod, he thinks that the Bulls must have been desperate to get him out of the East. Still, why give up pick 16 too!?

That makes no sense. Why do they need him out of the East for the next 2 years?

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Socnorb11 wrote:
Tim wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
Rieges wrote:Stunning that the Bulls trade an all-star for three players that seem to have that great a shot to be all-star caliber and had to throw in their own 1st round pick to do it. My take is that they probably had the no. 3 pick on the table with Boston but didn't want to trade him there and watch him go to the conference finals again the next couple seasons and then have a good shot at the finals if LeBron decides to leave Cleveland again.

The Bulls aren't competing in the next 2 seasons, with or without Butler. They should have taken the best deal possible. I don't believe they did.
Listening to Bill Simmons post draft pod, he thinks that the Bulls must have been desperate to get him out of the East. Still, why give up pick 16 too!?

That makes no sense. Why do they need him out of the East for the next 2 years?
Exactly. They're not making the playoffs for many years, barring something crazy happening. Who cares which conference Jimmy Butler plays in or which team loses to the Warriors? Simmons is just wondering why the Celtics didn't put something together for him when he saw that terrible package they accepted and he's trying to assign logic. In reality, the Bulls front office is just very, very bad at their job.

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They've positioned themselves firmly in the running for the Michael Porter Jr sweepstakes.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:They've positioned themselves firmly in the running for the Michael Porter Jr sweepstakes.
And the funny thing is that I'm not sure how intentional they've gone about doing it.

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Now that I've read more and understand Levine's contract situation and that he's likely to make more than Butler the next couple of years, it just further cements the incompetence of Garpax.

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Rieges wrote:Now that I've read more and understand Levine's contract situation and that he's likely to make more than Butler the next couple of years, it just further cements the incompetence of Garpax.

Are you sure that's right? It doesn't sound right, unless I'm missing something.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
Rieges wrote:Now that I've read more and understand Levine's contract situation and that he's likely to make more than Butler the next couple of years, it just further cements the incompetence of Garpax.

Are you sure that's right? It doesn't sound right, unless I'm missing something.
Nope, I misread the ESPN below. I thought he was trying to say that Levine was a restricted free agent this summer and would likely get a $19M/year deal but he was actually talking about next offseason.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

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thrill wrote:
MrCrowesGarden wrote:They've positioned themselves firmly in the running for the Michael Porter Jr sweepstakes.
And the funny thing is that I'm not sure how intentional they've gone about doing it.
its amazing to me that this kid can have so much power. so let me understand correctly...this MPjr kid, he's going to mizzou because of the new coach. MPjr is a legit 1 and done and he's likely to be top 5 in *next* years draft?

and if the above is all right, then..the bulls, a million (billion?) dollar company(organization), want to draft MPjr because he's a local-ish (midwest) kid or he's just super talented and regardless of the reason he will revamp the club?

ah..just...yeesh...

sorry, i realize the post is all over and cranky.

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I was scrolling through the draft results and going to congratulate Saigon on a good draft with Jackson/Giles/Swanigan, but now I see it's the Kings getting Fox/Jackson/Giles. That's a hell of a draft for a team without a top 3 pick.

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