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Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: May 25 26, 12:49 pm
by phins
Famous Mortimer wrote:
May 25 26, 9:46 am
Sometimes you've got to admit when you're wrong, and it certainly seems like I was about Walker. He may turn into a complete pumpkin at some point, but that's looking less likely than it did pre-season.
Defense has regressed a bit, and is down to fifth worst among RF'ers, which is where he was last year as well. Had hoped for that to improve with reps, but the arm plays for sure.

Everything else has taken steps forward from baserunning to contact quality to contact type (flyballs essentially). I think this Walker is a plus major leaguer and that's a huge development for the season.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: May 28 26, 9:27 pm
by WAR God
phins wrote:
May 25 26, 12:49 pm
Famous Mortimer wrote:
May 25 26, 9:46 am
Sometimes you've got to admit when you're wrong, and it certainly seems like I was about Walker. He may turn into a complete pumpkin at some point, but that's looking less likely than it did pre-season.
Defense has regressed a bit, and is down to fifth worst among RF'ers, which is where he was last year as well. Had hoped for that to improve with reps, but the arm plays for sure.

Everything else has taken steps forward from baserunning to contact quality to contact type (flyballs essentially). I think this Walker is a plus major leaguer and that's a huge development for the season.
So DH projects better long-term?

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: May 29 26, 1:51 pm
by st.lewis11
I plead ignorance, I don't know how to decipher defensive metrics. I was looking at defensive categories in Baseball Reference, which some show under "total zone", "DRS", "range factor", etc. But I have no idea what the #'s actually mean, or what is determined to be good or bad. I only understand the basic standard stuff like fielding percentage, errors or putouts.

So on Walker, I see he does have 3 errors with .976 fielding %. But other than that, he seems to pass my eye test on D, especially his arm. So what are his actual weaknesses defensively? For example, does he not use his speed well on range? I'm unable to interpret the advanced statistics, so I would appreciate your input.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: May 29 26, 3:44 pm
by CardsofSTL
I don't see his defense as having regressed; someone might use a stat to say that it has but to me he is taking better reads and getting better as an outfielder after being converted from third base a few seasons ago.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: May 29 26, 3:51 pm
by TGantz
CardsofSTL wrote:
May 29 26, 3:44 pm
I don't see his defense as having regressed; someone might use a stat to say that it has but to me he is taking better reads and getting better as an outfielder after being converted from third base a few seasons ago.
Came here to post the same thing. He might be regressing to the mean based on opportunities, but his skills are improving.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: June 23 26, 8:47 am
by dmarx114
Anyone want to "sell high" on Walker?

I don't, but I know GRB likes to critique when the Carlsons of the world don't pan out, and that we should have sold high on him.

Well, now's the time to speak up.

As for me, I would not trade him.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: June 23 26, 10:54 am
by CardsofSTL
dmarx114 wrote:
June 23 26, 8:47 am
Anyone want to "sell high" on Walker?

I don't, but I know GRB likes to critique when the Carlsons of the world don't pan out, and that we should have sold high on him.

Well, now's the time to speak up.

As for me, I would not trade him.
Carlson was old regime. We're all in on Chaim right now.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: June 24 26, 8:24 am
by Famous Mortimer
dmarx114 wrote:
June 23 26, 8:47 am
Anyone want to "sell high" on Walker?

I don't, but I know GRB likes to critique when the Carlsons of the world don't pan out, and that we should have sold high on him.

Well, now's the time to speak up.

As for me, I would not trade him.
When was the time to sell high on Carlson?

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: June 24 26, 10:22 am
by dmarx114
Famous Mortimer wrote:
June 24 26, 8:24 am
dmarx114 wrote:
June 23 26, 8:47 am
Anyone want to "sell high" on Walker?

I don't, but I know GRB likes to critique when the Carlsons of the world don't pan out, and that we should have sold high on him.

Well, now's the time to speak up.

As for me, I would not trade him.
When was the time to sell high on Carlson?
I guess after the 2021 season.

Re: Jordan Walker

Posted: June 24 26, 11:28 am
by phins
What does sell high mean? Ryan Sloan? Jesus Made?

Trade him or not trade him is not the right question. The question is for what?