TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[Vidor]

14 years in TV is better than most actors do. Certainly better than Rob Schneider, Tim Meadows, or Norm Macdonald have done.

I don't think one has to be lobbying for a lifetime achievement Oscar for Spade to believe that Murphy's reaction to that joke was small and petty. And it is a disappointment that Murphy showed up at Studio 8H for the first time in thirty years to do absolutely nothing.

[Jocephus]

and how has schneider out-done spade?

[33anda3rd]

i dont know about that re: spade. yes, when you compare eddie and spade its a pretty far gap. but spade was on that "just shoot me" for its entire run, i think like 6 or 7 years...then he was on rules of engagement for another 6-7 years...though i never watched that one.

He was the 5th fiddle on a multi-camera show when multi-camera shows were having their requiem played, and then he was 5th-fiddle on a sitcom in which (and I had to look this up because I never watched it and had never even heard of it, so it must have been on CBS at some point in the last decade with is a comedy graveyard and nowhere you want your career to go as 5th fiddle) the guy who played Puddy on Seinfeld was the lead.

Sandler's done 2.5 billion worldwide.
Farley died a legend.
Chris Rock is Chris Rock, we don't really need details, he's ubiquitous and one of the Greats-with-a-capital-G.
Rob Schneider did 800 million worldwide.
Mike Myers, again, legend.

Spade did a couple sitcoms and Joe Dirt. Yeah, half-billion worldwide BO. 150 of that is voicing Hotel Transylvannia. 100 is voicing Rugrats. 300 of it is the two Grown-Ups movies with Sandler. The two films he carried--Joe Dirt and Dickie Roberts--combined for under 50 million worldwide. Eddie Murphy carries movies like Bowfinger and Life to more than that. David Spade can't carry Murphy's jock. He got his joke in 20 years ago. Good for him.

[33anda3rd]

and how has schneider out-done spade?

box office

[Jocephus]

your way of answering is fascinating

[Vidor]

For that matter, all of Chris Farley's best films--"best" being relative as let's face it they weren't very good--co-starred David Spade.

[33anda3rd]

14 years in TV is better than most actors do. Certainly better than Rob Schneider, Tim Meadows, or Norm Macdonald have done.

Meadows is almost always working. Curb, Bobs Burgers, Marry Me, a bunch of Colbert appearances, 30 Rock, The Office. He pops up everywhere because he's funny and people want to work with him. Schneider, as awful as he is, crushes Spade in box office, esp. in movies in which he's the lead. Norm is a comic's comic, he's a guy that everyone wants to see. My friend from my improv days is a writer at SNL, the highlight of his SNL40 was talking to Norm. Norm is revered by a lot of people. Spade isn't revered by anyone. Because he's not funny, he's just a kinda slimy little snide troll.

[Jocephus]

sandler has done billions but everyone rips his movies (kinda like murphy)

farley died a legend but was more or less a fat guy.


why are you getting such a hardon for spades comment way back when? no one debates the overall success of spade vs murphy, but because you dont care for spade you [expletive] on him as if its part of your "science trumps belief" argumentation. its not.

schneider made 800 million? are you including his sandler involved movies? i.e. the ones where sandler calls him up and says " i have a part for you"

[33anda3rd]

your way of answering is fascinating

I mean, if you think there's a SNL player of the last 20 years, from the Sandler/Spade/Farley/Myers era up to now, who has had a bigger dip from status on SNL to status after SNL than David Spade, please make the case for that person.

I used Norm and Silverman as examples of people who had little to no status on SNL (certainly not Spade's level of status) who have had respectable careers, and who remain in demand while Spade's career has been mostly in the toilet--and 5th fiddle on a CBS sitcom is toilet-territory. Very few SNL stars go from the status Spade had on that show to where he is now, so him making that joke is kinda ironic and funny to me. Also, he does kinda suck. I mean, no one here is going "Hey! He carried Just Shoot Me!" or "Come on now, Spade made Grown-Ups tolerable."

[33anda3rd]

why are you getting such a hardon for spades comment way back when? no one debates the overall success of spade vs murphy, but because you dont care for spade you [expletive] on him as if its part of your "science trumps belief" argumentation. its not.

It has nothing to do with that.

It has to do with the beautiful irony of David Spade being the last person on earth to make a falling star joke. Because his stock has fallen so far.

Ok, Schneider's box office contains Sandler money. Deuce Bigalow made 15 million more than Joe Dirt and Donnie Whatever: Child Star combined. And also not that many people are calling up David Spade and saying "Hey I have a part for you."