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Diddy wrote:I understood just tried to read more into it. Maybe alittle because I've got a family member who used one of those reality shows to further his brand and given him some great oppertunities

jim wrote:If I owned a restaurant on the north side of Chicago and I saw any Cub players come in I would be serving a nice filet covered in a white arsenic sauce.

33anda3rd wrote:

Diddy wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:And speaking of the "incessant media turning cooks into chefs in the minds of the public."

So many dumb competition TV shows. One of our cooks, who we fired over a year ago because he could not do a simple line-cook job in our place, recently went deep on a cooking show. What do they call people on those shows? Chefs. Chef this, chef that. Good morning cheftestants. Here is your challenge, chefs. I would bet that people watching on TV actually think that the fat, bloated boozehound we fired because he couldn't prep a station for service see him go deep on a TV show and think he's a "chef." Most of them are line cooks on those shows, not chefs, and the talent is worse the further down the ladder you get from Top Chef, which does have legit talent. Not everyone with a high school degree, a body full of tattoos, and an achy body from working 70 hours/week in the kitchen is "chef." The overwhelming majority of them are not.

Jealous much?

I don't think you get what I'm saying. Maybe you do. There's a guy worked for us. 60 pounds overweight, a trainwreck of a person who we fired because he was a sweaty, hungover, mess of cocaine and booze who could not hack it as a line cook in our kitchen. He was on a reality show, did pretty well. On that show, and others, it's: "Ok, chefts, here's your next challenge." He's not a chef. He's a cook who has had like 5 jobs since we canned him a year ago and who is currently, far as I know, not employed. Those shows make the public think a cook is a chef. Some are, on Top Chef, but most of those competition shows are line cooks being elevated in the minds of the public. They're reality TV stars with cook jobs. Not chefs.

33anda3rd wrote:

jim wrote:If I owned a restaurant on the north side of Chicago and I saw any Cub players come in I would be serving a nice filet covered in a white arsenic sauce.

I'd treat them really well because that person is probably a millionaire with a following and if he passed word along how much he liked my place that would be great for me.

Ian Kinsler (who had a pretty good 2011 WS vs us) was in last summer on a travel day before a White Sox series. I schmoozed the hell out of him, told him I thought he was a legit AL MVP candidate that year, and what an honor it was to have him in. Flirted with Mrs. Kinsler a bit. Next night, Verlander and Scherzer were in. That's how it works.

stlouie_lipp wrote: I think most people who watch those shows understand that without even owning a restaurant.

33anda3rd wrote:

stlouie_lipp wrote: I think most people who watch those shows understand that without even owning a restaurant.

You'd be surprised. The media has turned kitchen personnel into rock stars in the eyes of a lot of people, and they have a bit of a rock star thing going, although it's a hyper-specific rock star thing relegated to a small-ish circle of foodies who give a [expletive], right down to the groupies. The bored bougie ladies out prowling events like Bacon Fest and Green City Farmers Market BBQ looking for a chef to hook up with.

Foodies are weird, but they're just like anyone else who has a particularly super-specific interest, right down to their fetishes.

33anda3rd wrote:

stlouie_lipp wrote: I think most people who watch those shows understand that without even owning a restaurant.

You'd be surprised. The media has turned kitchen personnel into rock stars in the eyes of a lot of people, and they have a bit of a rock star thing going, although it's a hyper-specific rock star thing relegated to a small-ish circle of foodies who give a [expletive], right down to the groupies. The bored bougie ladies out prowling events like Bacon Fest and Green City Farmers Market BBQ looking for a chef to hook up with.

Foodies are weird, but they're just like anyone else who has a particularly super-specific interest, right down to their fetishes.

TimeForGuinness wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:

stlouie_lipp wrote: I think most people who watch those shows understand that without even owning a restaurant.

You'd be surprised. The media has turned kitchen personnel into rock stars in the eyes of a lot of people, and they have a bit of a rock star thing going, although it's a hyper-specific rock star thing relegated to a small-ish circle of foodies who give a [expletive], right down to the groupies. The bored bougie ladies out prowling events like Bacon Fest and Green City Farmers Market BBQ looking for a chef to hook up with.

Foodies are weird, but they're just like anyone else who has a particularly super-specific interest, right down to their fetishes.

I guess I was always of the opinion that if you were already that good, you wouldn't need a reality competition cooking show to cry on.

jim wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:

stlouie_lipp wrote: I think most people who watch those shows understand that without even owning a restaurant.

You'd be surprised. The media has turned kitchen personnel into rock stars in the eyes of a lot of people, and they have a bit of a rock star thing going, although it's a hyper-specific rock star thing relegated to a small-ish circle of foodies who give a [expletive], right down to the groupies. The bored bougie ladies out prowling events like Bacon Fest and Green City Farmers Market BBQ looking for a chef to hook up with.

Foodies are weird, but they're just like anyone else who has a particularly super-specific interest, right down to their fetishes.

Good lord I can only imagine what the women stalking chefs must be like. An absolutely terrifying thought.