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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 9:42 pm
by ghostrunner
Arthur Dent wrote:
Interesting that this article chooses to only consider Obama's plans. The Tax Policy Center, the source of many of the article's figures, concludes that Obama's tax changes would reduce revenue over the next decade (with respect to current law) by $2.95 trillion. This figure is reported. In the same table, the TPC concludes that McCain tax cuts would reduce revenue by an even larger $4.17 trillion over the same period. How's McCain going to raise that money?
I think McCain's plans are looking moot at this point.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 10:44 pm
by jim

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 10:54 pm
by Freed Roger
jim wrote:http://www.economist.com/vote2008/

Iraq is pro-McCain.
4 countries in Africa leaning McCain?

Cuba is leaning McCain?

What pubs and icehouses are they sampling in those polls? maybe Pujols Junkie has time to analyze the global polling too :)

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 10:55 pm
by jim
Freed Roger wrote:
jim wrote:http://www.economist.com/vote2008/

Iraq is pro-McCain.
4 countries in Africa leaning McCain?

Cuba is leaning McCain?

What pubs and icehouses are they sampling in those polls? maybe Pujols Junkie has time to analyze the global polling too :)
Very surprising with Cuba given Obama being a communist.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 11:03 pm
by docellis
Joe McCain Allegedly Calls 911 to Complain About Traffic

Fri October 24, 2008
Alexandria (web|news) - A 911 tape, reportedly of Sen. John McCain (web|news|bio) 's brother Joe, could prove controversial for the McCain camp since the call was not for an emergency, but rather to complain about being stuck in traffic.

The call came into Alexandria's 911 system on October 21.

Operator: 911 state your emergency

Caller: It's not an emergency, but do you know why on one side at the damn drawbridge of 95 traffic is stopped for 15 minutes and yet traffic's coming the other way?

Operator: Sir, are you calling 911 to complain about traffic? (pause)

Caller: "(Expletive) you." (caller hangs up)

The complaint call about traffic on the Wilson Bridge forced the 911 dispatcher to call back. The voice mail on the other end, appears to belong to Joe McCain, brother of presidential candidate, John McCain.

"Hi this is Joe McCain. I can't take this message now because I'm involved in a very (inaudible) important political project. I hope on November 4th we have elected John."

"I think it's horrible. I can't believe somebody would tie up valuable resources to complain about traffic," said District resident Nancy Case.

"It seems stupid, my name can be tagged to this, why would I hose my brother, why would I do it," asked District resident Rob Case.

But that wasn't all. McCain apparently called 911 again to complain about the message the operator just left him, warning him such use of 911 is criminal.

Caller: Somebody gave me this riot act about the violation of police.

Operator: Did you just call 911 in reference to this?

Caller: Yeah.

Operator: 911 is to be used for emergencies only not just because you're sitting in traffic.

"The future president, possible president whatever, possible president, can't control what someone does, but this gentleman should be fined or something should happen to him," said tourist Suzanna Rey.

The McCain campaign has not commented on the issue, although it's said the campaign did listen to the call. ABC 7/NewsChannel 8 crews tried to reach Joe McCain, but were unable to.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 11:51 pm
by cards2468
Freed Roger wrote:
jim wrote:http://www.economist.com/vote2008/

Iraq is pro-McCain.
4 countries in Africa leaning McCain?

Cuba is leaning McCain?

What pubs and icehouses are they sampling in those polls? maybe Pujols Junkie has time to analyze the global polling too :)
Who would-a thought people of countries who are oppressed or recently were oppressed would want the US to be headed by a guy likely to take action rather than frolic in a meadow with their leader and "talk" things over...

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 24 08, 11:57 pm
by cpebbles
I'm fairly sure those oddball pro-McCain countries are the work of U.S. military in the country. I suspect American soldiers are a lot more able and likely to go to The Economist than are the citizens of those countries.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 25 08, 12:01 am
by cards2468
cpebbles wrote:I'm fairly sure those oddball pro-McCain countries are the work of U.S. military in the country. I suspect American soldiers are a lot more able and likely to go to The Economist than are the citizens of those countries.
Yea, I'm sure those Iraqi's really miss Saddam badly, but support McCain because of the conservative biased military there

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 25 08, 12:38 am
by PujolJunkie
Freed Roger wrote:
jim wrote:http://www.economist.com/vote2008/

Iraq is pro-McCain.
4 countries in Africa leaning McCain?

Cuba is leaning McCain?

What pubs and icehouses are they sampling in those polls? maybe Pujols Junkie has time to analyze the global polling too :)
I can honestly see that.

"The JDP (Jerusalem Daily Polling) poll out today is ridiculous. They oversampled Jewish people by 14%. A 90% sample is way too high."

"No polling from Iraq today. The only polling center blew up."

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 25 08, 1:33 am
by cpebbles
cards2468 wrote:Yea, I'm sure those Iraqi's really miss Saddam badly, but support McCain because of the conservative biased military there
Well, considering that Obama is widely believed to be the preferred choice for the vast majority of nations (Including, say, Iraq), I'm pretty sure it's not actually Iraqis who are represented in this poll. The most likely conclusion is that this represents U.S. soliders' opinions, given that two of the very few pro-McCain countries on this map have substantial U.S. military presences and little in the way of public access to the internet (And honestly, are Iraqis or Cubans who do have web access going to be at The Economist website?).