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Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:04 pm
by GatewaySnayke
BTW, PECOTA gives roughly the SAME chance of Felix Pie developing into a .300+ EqA player.
No way. This is just...

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:10 pm
by Asmodai
cpebbles wrote:
Asmodai wrote:You're looking at the best case scenario. I am looking at the most likely scenario. Translation: I am the one analyzing the results and objectively saying this is what should be expected. You're the one praying to God hoping something happens. Which is better?
No, I am looking at projections which indicate that Rasmus has that potential. You are ignoring all but the lower ranges of his potential value, and assuming we'll take your word over people who put their projections out in the open and subject them to testing when you wishcast Rasmus as a borderline All-Star and Anderson as a C prospect.
No, I am not ignoring them. His I think he has a very good chance into developing into a .300 EqA CF. However the line you guys spit out is closer to a .320 CFer. Do you know how many .320 EqA CFers there are in history? Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Ken Griffey Jr, Ty Cobb, Willie Mays, Tris Speaker.

Am I forgetting any? I don't think so. That's INSANE. Rasmus is probably the third, fourth or fifth best centerfield prospect right now when it comes to overall potential. Bruce and Maybin are ahead of him and you can make your case for Fernando Martinez, and McCutchen and maybe Carlos Gonzalez. So you also have to say the same things about those five prospects.

Making suggestions like that are always insane, even for the top ten prospects. You're basically saying Rasmus could become the second best centerfielder of the last 50 years. Come on. That's not likely and the chance is so remote it's not worth dreaming about.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:12 pm
by Asmodai
GatewaySnayke wrote:
BTW, PECOTA gives roughly the SAME chance of Felix Pie developing into a .300+ EqA player.
No way. This is just...
Which is which
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Who is who?

Hint: If you run an integral, youll actually find that Pie's more likely to develop into one.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:16 pm
by GatewaySnayke
Somebody missed the point.

Anyways, Felix Pie has been told to play the little man's game. That means playing like Aaron Miles. GQTMOL.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:18 pm
by Asmodai
You had one?

For comparison:

Billy Butlers
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Jay Bruces
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Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:23 pm
by GatewaySnayke
Am I forgetting any? I don't think so. That's INSANE. Rasmus is probably the third, fourth or fifth best centerfield prospect right now when it comes to overall potential. Bruce and Maybin are ahead of him and you can make your case for Fernando Martinez, and McCutchen and maybe Carlos Gonzalez. So you also have to say the same things about those five prospects.
I am enjoying how as this thread goes along, Rasmus is getting worse. By page nine, I'm fully expecting you to say that Rasmus is somewhere between Chris Denorfia and Luke Scott.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:26 pm
by GatewaySnayke
Asmodai wrote:You had one?
Yup. If you're going to post here, I suggest learning to read between the lines.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:37 pm
by skmsw
GatewaySnayke wrote:
Am I forgetting any? I don't think so. That's INSANE. Rasmus is probably the third, fourth or fifth best centerfield prospect right now when it comes to overall potential. Bruce and Maybin are ahead of him and you can make your case for Fernando Martinez, and McCutchen and maybe Carlos Gonzalez. So you also have to say the same things about those five prospects.
I am enjoying how as this thread goes along, Rasmus is getting worse. By page nine, I'm fully expecting you to say that Rasmus is somewhere between Chris Denorfia and Luke Scott.
OK, so seriously, what do you expect from Rasmus? Give me three sets of numbers -- his rookie year, his best years, and his typical year.

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 10:57 pm
by GatewaySnayke
skmsw wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:
Am I forgetting any? I don't think so. That's INSANE. Rasmus is probably the third, fourth or fifth best centerfield prospect right now when it comes to overall potential. Bruce and Maybin are ahead of him and you can make your case for Fernando Martinez, and McCutchen and maybe Carlos Gonzalez. So you also have to say the same things about those five prospects.
I am enjoying how as this thread goes along, Rasmus is getting worse. By page nine, I'm fully expecting you to say that Rasmus is somewhere between Chris Denorfia and Luke Scott.
OK, so seriously, what do you expect from Rasmus? Give me three sets of numbers -- his rookie year, his best years, and his typical year.
Rookie year? .260/.360/.430
Best year? .290/.400/.520
Typical year? .270/.370/.480

EDIT: Why are you asking ME?

Re: Colby Rasmus

Posted: March 30 08, 11:09 pm
by dangerous
If Jimmy Rollins was .258 there must be little correlation between doubleA and MLB.