Brewers are Stealing Signs

[Miller Genuine Draft]

It's almost statistically impossible for them not to have been stealing signs at home all year. Their home/road splits are beyond ridiculous.

Rk Tm Year G W L W-L%
1 CIN 1975 81 64 17 .790
2 PIT 1902 71 56 15 .789
3 BRO 1953 78 60 17 .779
4 STL 1942 78 60 17 .779
5 CHC 1910 77 58 19 .753
6 SFG 1962 82 61 21 .744
7 PHI 1977 81 60 21 .741
8 CHC 1907 76 54 19 .740
9 STL 1943 81 58 21 .734
10 CIN 1919 70 51 19 .729
11 BRO 1955 77 56 21 .727
12 CHC 1906 79 56 21 .727
13 PIT 1909 79 56 21 .727
14 CHC 1935 77 56 21 .727
15 CIN 1940 77 55 21 .724
16 BRO 1942 79 57 22 .722
17 NYG 1905 76 54 21 .720
18 BRO 1946 79 56 22 .718
19 PIT 1977 81 58 23 .716
20 CIN 1962 81 58 23 .716
21 STL 1944 77 54 22 .711
22 CHC 1933 79 56 23 .709
23 SFG 2003 81 57 24 .704
24 CIN 1970 81 57 24 .704
25 NYG 1913 81 54 23 .701
26 NYM 1988 80 56 24 .700

Those are the teams who have played .700 ball at home over an entire season, the Brewers are at 40-14 (.741) right now. We can only afford to lose 4 more home game or we will fall behind the infamous, sign stealing, 1942 Cardinals pace.

They aren't getting any real benefit from having a runner at second (Where sign-stealing is an accepted part of the game and most teams get a big boost).

Um what, any evidence for this?

McGehee is pretty much the only player on the team not beating projections.

How do you explain all the pitchers doing well at home, are they stealing the 'take sign' and 'hit away' sign from the dugout?

Besides, worst-case scenario...

You really embarrass yourself and lose all future credibility when talking about statistics.

[cpebbles]

Most people don't though. Without a runner on second, you just go by the standard set of signs. I was hoping to see Yadier disguising signs from the start last night but he didn't.

[jim]

Sometimes the Cards make it very difficult to root for them. The Hard Nine, the sign stealing, the constant respect the game stuff, the parade of relievers and scraptastic veterans.

I'm just wore out.

... throw in the constant bad decisions, crazy roster choices, players out of position playing spots they can't handle ... next will come the inevitable "tipping pitches" explanation for McLellan's failure as a starter and inability to recover from that and get right back to previous levels of success now that he's a reliever again.

Never mind they are in a pennant race every single solitary year. Who cares about that?

[InvincibleCakeEater]

Never mind they are in a pennant race every single solitary year. Who cares about that?

That's called playing .500 ball in the NL Central.

[InvincibleCakeEater]

It's almost statistically impossible for them not to have been stealing signs at home all year. Their home/road splits are beyond ridiculous.

Rk Tm Year G W L W-L%
1 CIN 1975 81 64 17 .790
2 PIT 1902 71 56 15 .789
3 BRO 1953 78 60 17 .779
4 STL 1942 78 60 17 .779
5 CHC 1910 77 58 19 .753
6 SFG 1962 82 61 21 .744
7 PHI 1977 81 60 21 .741
8 CHC 1907 76 54 19 .740
9 STL 1943 81 58 21 .734
10 CIN 1919 70 51 19 .729
11 BRO 1955 77 56 21 .727
12 CHC 1906 79 56 21 .727
13 PIT 1909 79 56 21 .727
14 CHC 1935 77 56 21 .727
15 CIN 1940 77 55 21 .724
16 BRO 1942 79 57 22 .722
17 NYG 1905 76 54 21 .720
18 BRO 1946 79 56 22 .718
19 PIT 1977 81 58 23 .716
20 CIN 1962 81 58 23 .716
21 STL 1944 77 54 22 .711
22 CHC 1933 79 56 23 .709
23 SFG 2003 81 57 24 .704
24 CIN 1970 81 57 24 .704
25 NYG 1913 81 54 23 .701
26 NYM 1988 80 56 24 .700

Those are the teams who have played .700 ball at home over an entire season, the Brewers are at 40-14 (.741) right now. We can only afford to lose 4 more home game or we will fall behind the infamous, sign stealing, 1942 Cardinals pace.

Any of those teams play .400 or below ball on the road? And I'm giving the Brewers some leeway because they're a .375 team on the road.

[Miller Genuine Draft]

In the middle of all this, I'm patiently waiting for our newest member, Miller Genuine Draft, to weigh in.

Whoa creepy

[jim]

Never mind they are in a pennant race every single solitary year. Who cares about that?

That's called playing .500 ball in the NL Central.

We have been under .500 once in like 11 years. How many teams have a better overall record over the past 10 years? Seriuosly, we have some annoyances with this team (TLR), but hard to root for? Really? I call bull [expletive] on that.

[cpebbles]

It's almost statistically impossible for them not to have been stealing signs at home all year. Their home/road splits are beyond ridiculous.

Rk Tm Year G W L W-L%
1 CIN 1975 81 64 17 .790
2 PIT 1902 71 56 15 .789
3 BRO 1953 78 60 17 .779
4 STL 1942 78 60 17 .779
5 CHC 1910 77 58 19 .753
6 SFG 1962 82 61 21 .744
7 PHI 1977 81 60 21 .741
8 CHC 1907 76 54 19 .740
9 STL 1943 81 58 21 .734
10 CIN 1919 70 51 19 .729
11 BRO 1955 77 56 21 .727
12 CHC 1906 79 56 21 .727
13 PIT 1909 79 56 21 .727
14 CHC 1935 77 56 21 .727
15 CIN 1940 77 55 21 .724
16 BRO 1942 79 57 22 .722
17 NYG 1905 76 54 21 .720
18 BRO 1946 79 56 22 .718
19 PIT 1977 81 58 23 .716
20 CIN 1962 81 58 23 .716
21 STL 1944 77 54 22 .711
22 CHC 1933 79 56 23 .709
23 SFG 2003 81 57 24 .704
24 CIN 1970 81 57 24 .704
25 NYG 1913 81 54 23 .701
26 NYM 1988 80 56 24 .700

How many of those teams scored 50% more runs at home than on the road? I'm guessing only the other ones that cheated.

As for splits with runners on base, look up the splits yourself. As for how pitchers perform better at home, park factors, the expected home/road advantage, and statistical flukes. You find me an entire team performing after park adjustments as much better at home as the Brewers are hitting, and I'll concede that they are probably cheating too.

[jim]

Keep in mind that [expletive] hole that they play ball in pebbles ... closing the roof the lighting is weird. I wonder what dome teams in general have as far an advantage as home winning percentage overall? Would be interesting if there is data that show dome teams in general are tougher at home.

[vinsanity]

Rk Tm Year G W L W-L%
1 CIN 1975 81 64 17 .790
2 PIT 1902 71 56 15 .789
3 BRO 1953 78 60 17 .779
4 STL 1942 78 60 17 .779

Those are the teams who have played .700 ball at home over an entire season, the Brewers are at 40-14 (.741) right now. We can only afford to lose 4 more home game or we will fall behind the infamous, sign stealing, 1942 Cardinals pace.

Um
Team - Season W/L %
75 CIN - .667
02 PIT - .741
53 BRO - .682
42 STL - .688
11 MIL - .555

Do you see the problem with you're comparison?

2011 Mil is .741 at home, so were the 77 Phillies and they won .605 of their games. 101-61 on the season. 2011 Milwaukee is on pace for 90.

You really embarrass yourself and lose all future credibility when talking about statistics.

He hasn't to me.