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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:54 am
by TimeForGuinness
can't we just all get along?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:55 am
by JG1982
JL21 wrote:
JG1982 wrote:Ok, this is what I'm trying to say...and it would be a lot easier to try and explain it if you were in front of me then on a computer

Racism just isn't a white against black problem...and what I mean by that is I think black people are just as much as fault when talking about racism because they cry it when they don't get a job (even though they may be unqualified for the position), they cry it when a black man is arrested (even though they may be guilty), and so on...

I'm not saying all blacks do this, because that's just not true, but my point before was not reverse racism (which i was using wrong) but that black people are part of the racism problem because they scream it even when it isn't an issue
For this to be true, you'd have to be intimately familiar with:

a) the accuser's personal biography

b) the offender's personal biography (say, the cop arresting the black person or the person doing the hiring that passed over the black person)

If you aren't, then you're making a buttload of assumptions, and drawing an erroneous conclusion from those assumptions.

You're explaining yourself just fine. You're coming through loud and clear. And the message is not a good one.
What's the message?

This oughta be good

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:56 am
by Popeye_Card
TimeForGuinness wrote:can't we just all get along?
NINP*


* No Irish Need Post

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:56 am
by Michael
Woot! I was hoping this thread could have at least one more contentious pissing contest.

My prayers have been answered!

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:58 am
by TimeForGuinness
Popeye_Card wrote:
TimeForGuinness wrote:can't we just all get along?
NINP*


* No Irish Need Post
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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:58 am
by JL21
Michael wrote: I don't follow this logic. Just because white people weren't slaves in this country doesn't mean there isn't racism on all sides and it's not wrong. Clearly a lot of white people blow it out of proportion, but any type of racism is a problem.
You can't oppress people for many, many centuries and then just assume that once laws are in place to prevent their disenfranchisement, or protect their economic opportunity, that everything is going to be sunshine and roses in terms of race relations. These are things that cut deep and I begrudge nobody for being angry, even still, about the oppression of their people.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:59 am
by TimeForGuinness
JL21 wrote:
Michael wrote: I don't follow this logic. Just because white people weren't slaves in this country doesn't mean there isn't racism on all sides and it's not wrong. Clearly a lot of white people blow it out of proportion, but any type of racism is a problem.
You can't oppress people for many, many centuries and then just assume that once laws are in place to prevent their disenfranchisement, or protect their economic opportunity, that everything is going to be sunshine and roses in terms of race relations. These are things that cut deep and I begrudge nobody for being angry, even still, about the oppression of their people.
So does that mean I can still hate the English?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:59 am
by JL21
JG1982 wrote:What's the message?

This oughta be good
Your own words:
black people are part of the racism problem because they scream it even when it isn't an issue

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 9:59 am
by JL21
TimeForGuinness wrote:
JL21 wrote:
Michael wrote: I don't follow this logic. Just because white people weren't slaves in this country doesn't mean there isn't racism on all sides and it's not wrong. Clearly a lot of white people blow it out of proportion, but any type of racism is a problem.
You can't oppress people for many, many centuries and then just assume that once laws are in place to prevent their disenfranchisement, or protect their economic opportunity, that everything is going to be sunshine and roses in terms of race relations. These are things that cut deep and I begrudge nobody for being angry, even still, about the oppression of their people.
So does that mean I can still hate the English?
You know that the answer is yes.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: November 4 08, 10:00 am
by JG1982
JL21 wrote:
JG1982 wrote:What's the message?

This oughta be good
Your own words:
black people are part of the racism problem because they scream it even when it isn't an issue
And does this mean I'm racist?

This is laughable...I'm done