NFL 2013 offseason thread

[stlouie_lipp]

Based on the early evidence that has been revealed it sounds like a pretty solid case. Where are the other two guys? If they are talking to the police he's done.

[Jocephus]

They must have a lot more on him than they've let on to charge him with murder.

In court, prosecutors described a killing borne out of a trip to a Boston nightclub on the night of June 14.

Hernandez and two friends picked up Lloyd at home at 2:30 a.m. on June 17, prosecutors said. Surveillance footage from Hernandez's home shows him leaving earlier with a gun. He also told someone in the house that he was upset and couldn't trust anyone anymore, prosecutors said.

After picking up Lloyd, Hernandez said he was upset with Lloyd because Lloyd had spoken with people Hernandez had trouble with during their outing to the nightclub, prosecutors said.

After that conversation, Lloyd texted his sister, "Did you see who I am with," prosecutors said. When his sister asked who, he answered at 3:22 a.m., "NFL," then, a minute later, "Just so you know," prosecutors said.

Between 3:23 a.m. and 3:27 a.m., people working the overnight shift at the industrial park reported hearing gunshots, authorities said.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... ged-murder

[cardsfansince82]

Where are the other two guys?

That's what I want to know. Neither has been ID'd yet publicly have they? I assume we'll find out real soon if he wants any chance of seeing the outside of a prison again.

Those texts definitely seem to put him at the scene but unless he actually pulled the trigger he could still conceivably be found guilty of lesser charges.

[Jocephus]

yeah, don't think theres any *hard* evidence

[Arthur Dent]

Those texts definitely seem to put him at the scene but unless he actually pulled the trigger he could still conceivably be found guilty of lesser charges.

How much does it matter who pulled the trigger? Wouldn't he be considered an accomplice with the same guilt as the actual shooter?

[cardsfansince82]

Those texts definitely seem to put him at the scene but unless he actually pulled the trigger he could still conceivably be found guilty of lesser charges.

How much does it matter who pulled the trigger? Wouldn't he be considered an accomplice with the same guilt as the actual shooter?

That used to be the case back in the day, but not really anymore. At least one of the group is going to get a deal to testify against the shooter, and unless it was planned out and they all definitely knew what was going to happen they aren't all going to get the same punishment.

[stlouie_lipp]

I think one of them might be talking already. I thought I heard (or read) that the prosecutor made mention of a conversation in the car that the 4 were riding in.

EDIT:

The presentation of evidence from prosecutor Bill McCauley at Wednesday’s arraignment was confusing on at least one point: The whereabouts of the two men who allegedly were in the car on the evening in question with Hernandez and Odin Lloyd.

At one point, it seemed that the authorities had obtained cooperation from one or both men, given McCauley’s summary of the conversation that occurred in the car, when Hernandez said he couldn’t “trust” anyone. At another point, it seemed that the two other men are still at large.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... hernandez/

[cardsfantx]

they had them the 1st day...hopefully they got their names

[docellis]

...Hernandez drove his friend to a remote spot in an industrial park in the dead of night and ... "orchestrated his execution," prosecutors alleged in a Massachusetts court Wednesday.


After getting into the car, Lloyd allegedly texted a family member, asking, "Did you see who I am with," prosecutors said. He then texted that it was Hernandez and followed it up with "Just so you know" in another text message, the prosecutors alleged during the arraignment.

That dude was scared

[stlouie_lipp]

Can you imagine what it would be like to realize that you may never be a free man again? Here's what it looks like.

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-moment-aa ... socialflow