I'll be very interested in CCS's take on this. Lindsay is pretty even-handed. Here's mine, FWIW.
One the one hand, Mikolas threw at Happ twice. On the other, there was no warning issued after the first. Furthermore, once he was hit, as Chip pointed out, the Cubs didn't say a thing. Baseball justice was meted out. Happ takes his base, warnings are issued, and the game continues.
IMO, Barksdale and crew escalated the situation with the no-warning ejection. And then get Oli while he was calm. He must have said a magic word. The umpires inserted themselves into the game unnecessarily. Game management 101 and this crew failed IMO.
Further, I wonder if Oli is a marked manager. I wonder if the way he handled the CB Bucknor situation has the umpires looking for him. The Cardinals seem to consistently get bad calls against them. Yeah I'm a fan so I'd like to see if statistics bear that out. But its one more reason to be rid of Oli if true.
Oli sure gets thrown out of a lot of games. I wondered myself if he was on their bad side.
He and Bucknor did shake hands before a game recently.
When a pitcher is thrown out for intentionally hitting a batter, the manager is almost always thrown out too. Mikolas acted like a total thumb and Chip Caray was very much on the wrong side of things
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 8:40 pm
by haltz
Nice to see Flaherty and Mikolas lose their [expletive] to defend Willson's honor after throwing him under the bus earlier in the year. Maybe they feel obligated.
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 8:46 pm
by dmarx114
Mikolas got the loss but threw a no hitter.
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 8:50 pm
by haltz
Kiz the 5th catcher in MLB history to hit 2 HR as a sub
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 9:48 pm
by jagtrader
If a backswing smashes the catcher in the head, the batter bears responsibility. If you don’t know where your stick is going in hockey you get a penalty and you used to get your ass kicked.
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 9:56 pm
by haltz
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
Posted: July 27 23, 10:09 pm
by a_smith
I just hate that the cardinals are getting ownd by the cubs.
Nikolas could have hit him in the 6th. Getting tossed in the first is just stupid.
Yes, Happ needs to control his bat batter. But Mikolas was being a thug with a ball.
Get even by winning some [expletive] games.
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
I'll be very interested in CCS's take on this. Lindsay is pretty even-handed. Here's mine, FWIW.
One the one hand, Mikolas threw at Happ twice. On the other, there was no warning issued after the first. Furthermore, once he was hit, as Chip pointed out, the Cubs didn't say a thing. Baseball justice was meted out. Happ takes his base, warnings are issued, and the game continues.
IMO, Barksdale and crew escalated the situation with the no-warning ejection. And then get Oli while he was calm. He must have said a magic word. The umpires inserted themselves into the game unnecessarily. Game management 101 and this crew failed IMO.
Further, I wonder if Oli is a marked manager. I wonder if the way he handled the CB Bucknor situation has the umpires looking for him. The Cardinals seem to consistently get bad calls against them. Yeah I'm a fan so I'd like to see if statistics bear that out. But its one more reason to be rid of Oli if true.
Oli sure gets thrown out of a lot of games. I wondered myself if he was on their bad side.
He and Bucknor did shake hands before a game recently.
When a pitcher is thrown out for intentionally hitting a batter, the manager is almost always thrown out too. Mikolas acted like a total thumb and Chip Caray was very much on the wrong side of things
CloseCallSports agrees with you. I guess I'm too old school.
Re: 7/27 GDT: Cubs(Steele) vs Cardinals(Mikolas) 6:45 PM CT
If a backswing smashes the catcher in the head, the batter bears responsibility. If you don’t know where your stick is going in hockey you get a penalty and you used to get your ass kicked.
You'd think so but with no runner on, there is no penalty. If runners had been on it would only be a dead ball and runners return.
