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1 David Green 1992 40 11 Ruppert Jones 2003 33
2 Junior Felix 1979 36 12 Roger Cedeno 1971 33
3 Gary Geiger 1981 36 13 Jorge Orta 1982 33
4 Bobby Tolan 1970 36 14 Grady Sizemore 1960 33
5 Tito Francona 1973 35 15 Bert Campaneris 2007 32
6 Ruben Mateo 1992 35 16 Oddibe McDowell 1975 32
7 Tommy McCraw 1975 34 17 Whitey Lockman 1969 32
8 Rick Manning 1975 34 18 Andruw Jones 2000 31
9 Jim King 1957 34 19 Duke Snider 1979 30
10 Jose Cardenal 1998 33 20 Laynce Nix 2005 30

Asmodai wrote:those are pies, i meant pie still being top ten on rasmus'

1 Chris Lubanski 1992 40 11 Eric Duncan 2003 33
2 Dee Brown 1979 36 12 Chad Hermansen 1971 33
3 Willie Greene 1981 36 13 Todd Hollandsworth 1982 33
4 Carlos Beltran 1970 36 14 Kelly Johnson 1960 33
5 Sean Rodriguez 1973 35 15 Melvin Nieves 2007 32
6 Bobby Abreu 1992 35 16 Ray Mcdavid 1975 32
7 Rich Becker 1975 34 17 Greg Blosser 1969 32
8 Cliff Floyd 1975 34 18 Micah Franklin 2000 31
9 Reid Brignac 1957 34 19 Ryan Langerhans 1979 30
10 Adam Jones 1998 33 20 Cody Ross 2005 30

Asmodai wrote:Maybe a career year, but outside of that NO system predict ANY hitter to hit .290/.400/.550 over their three to five year peak performance

TheoSqua wrote:

Asmodai wrote:Maybe a career year, but outside of that NO system predict ANY hitter to hit .290/.400/.550 over their three to five year peak performance

Is this just for prospects? I'm pretty sure a lot of projection systems keep someone like Albert or A-Rod pretty high. In fact, I think Baseball-Prospectus has Albert's 7 year OPS average at .970 or something crazy high like that.

Btw the fact that theres a PECOTA and a PETCOA is confusing as hell.

Socnorb11 wrote:No offense, but it's beyond me how a Cub fan could give two squirts about Colby Rasmus as the Cubs get ready to open at home against Milwaukee........

skmsw wrote:

many of us have seen this guy play and can honestly say that watching him confirms what you see in the stats. He's amazingly talented.

I think the only point Meph is trying to make is that there have been loads and loads of guys who appear amazingly talented who go on to be ordinary garden variety players -- or who do not even make it all. It's an important point, and I'm not sure why he has received so much grief for making it. This board should be a lot better than disregarding sound analysis just because of the fan affiliation of the person doing the analysis (NOT to suggest that Fat is doing that). Betting against ANY strong prospect making it big -- even a prospect as strong as Rasmus -- will be the winning bet some two thirds of the time. And Meph's data show the cautions therein.

Ace wrote:I just don't see the point in bringing this topic up.