Trade Rumors - Oswalt to Phillies

[go birds]

If you're Mo and Tampa bay calls you up and offers you Ben Zobrist and Wade Davis for Luddy and Miller, what would you say?

I imagine we might have to offer another prospect or two, but i wonder how unrealistic something like this would be.

They get their RF bat, we get our MI bat. We could have a rotation of Jay/Craig in RF.

They can call up their top pitching prospect in Hellickson. We'd have a 5th starter that didn't suck who is also young and cost-controlled.

[Jocephus]

do they have a place for luddy?

[go birds]

Zobrist is their current RFer.

[Bo Hart]

If you're Mo and Tampa bay calls you up and offers you Ben Zobrist and Wade Davis for Luddy and Miller, what would you say?

I imagine we might have to offer another prospect or two, but i wonder how unrealistic something like this would be.

They get their RF bat, we get our MI bat. We could have a rotation of Jay/Craig in RF.

They can call up their top pitching prospect in Hellickson. We'd have a 5th starter that didn't suck who is also young and cost-controlled.

I honestly don't think that's even remotely realistic. Zobrist had the second-highest WAR in baseball last year (next to our very own Albert Pujols); while that was probably a fluke, he's signed to an incredibly team-friendly deal. They already bought out his arbitration years (he's making $5.5 million in what would have been his last arbitration-eligible year), and he has two club options at $7 million and $7.5 million that cover his first two years of free agency.

Zobrist is better than Ludwick. He's cheaper than Ludwick. He's under team control for an extra four years compared to Ludwick.

Wade Davis is basically an MLB-ready top 20 prospect. Shelby Miller is a single-A (arguably) top-20 prospect.

How does this benefit the Rays, even if we throw in more prospects?

[Magneto2.0]

If you're Mo and Tampa bay calls you up and offers you Ben Zobrist and Wade Davis for Luddy and Miller, what would you say?

I imagine we might have to offer another prospect or two, but i wonder how unrealistic something like this would be.

They get their RF bat, we get our MI bat. We could have a rotation of Jay/Craig in RF.

They can call up their top pitching prospect in Hellickson. We'd have a 5th starter that didn't suck who is also young and cost-controlled.

I honestly don't think that's even remotely realistic. Zobrist had the second-highest WAR in baseball last year (next to our very own Albert Pujols); while that was probably a fluke, he's signed to an incredibly team-friendly deal. They already bought out his arbitration years (he's making $5.5 million in what would have been his last arbitration-eligible year), and he has two club options at $7 million and $7.5 million that cover his first two years of free agency.

Zobrist is better than Ludwick. He's cheaper than Ludwick. He's under team control for an extra four years compared to Ludwick.

Wade Davis is basically an MLB-ready top 20 prospect. Shelby Miller is a single-A (arguably) top-20 prospect.

How does this benefit the Rays, even if we throw in more prospects?

Miller + Luddy and Motte for Wade Davis and Zobrist??

[Jocephus]

we should just be honest with ourselves, the cardinals dont have a lot of chips to be trading

[Bo Hart]

Miller + Luddy and Motte for Wade Davis and Zobrist??

Are you being serious or just kidding?

Wade Davis is like a fast-forwarded version of Shelby Miller that doesn't flame out in the minors. He's, in a lot of ways, a best-case Shelby Miller scenario.

Over the last three seasons ('08-'10), Ludwick has a 126 OPS+; in that same span, Zobrist has a 123 OPS+. Ludwick is under team-control through 2011 (he'll probably make $8 million next year). Zobrist is under team control through 2014, and won't make $8 million once in that entire span. Zobrist is also a very versatile player -- he can play short, second, and left and right fields.

Motte wouldn't tip the scales at all. Pulling off a trade like that would be a Mulder-for-Haren-Calero-and-Barton-caliber fleecing.

[jagtrader]

I can't believe Gose was traded for Wallace. It's absolutely staggering to me. Gose is a 100-strikeout, sub-.400 slugging hitter in High-A. Granted, he's only 19 and he runs super-fast, but I don't see how he has any trade value, let alone enough to acquire a big-league ready corner infielder.

[Fat Strat]

That's MLB GM's for you. I have never quite understood them. There are times when the world they live in seems just absolutely crazy. This is one example of what I'm talking about.

[Bo Hart]

I can't believe Gose was traded for Wallace. It's absolutely staggering to me. Gose is a 100-strikeout, sub-.400 slugging hitter in High-A. Granted, he's only 19 and he runs super-fast, but I don't see how he has any trade value, let alone enough to acquire a big-league ready corner infielder.

Agree. I understand that Wallace is having a rough year, but c'mon... even if Gose has a lot of potential, he's only 19-years-old and clearly hasn't realized it yet. Wallace is basically major-league ready.