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Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:04 am
by JL21
Kyle wrote:Socnorb11 wrote:I think the deal sucks, but I didn't want Westbrook to begin with (I know some of you did).
But I do think that some of you are overvaluing Ludwick.
This is the way I look at it:
We traded Ludwick for a non-prospect and Jake Westbrook. Ludwick is better than Westbrook, and also has an extra year of team control.
I guess you can argue that we traded from our "surplus" of outfielders to fill a need in the rotation, but from a pure value standpoint, we definitely lost this trade.
Luddy was probably going to cost too much for them in 2011. Still, a weird deal.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:04 am
by Secret Weapon
so the Pads give up 2 crap prospects and get Ludwick
the Indians give up Westbrook for a crap prospect
and we give up Ludwick for Westbrook and a crap prospect
again i ask, why didnt we just trade a crap prospect for Westbrook?
or Ludwick for more than just Westbrook?
blah
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:05 am
by st.lewis11
Kyle wrote:Socnorb11 wrote:I think the deal sucks, but I didn't want Westbrook to begin with (I know some of you did).
But I do think that some of you are overvaluing Ludwick.
This is the way I look at it:
We traded Ludwick for a non-prospect and Jake Westbrook. Ludwick is better than Westbrook, and also has an extra year of team control.
I guess you can argue that we traded from our "surplus" of outfielders to fill a need in the rotation, but from a pure value standpoint, we definitely lost this trade.
Completely agree. we could've only given up a Kluber-like prospect for Westbrrok.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:05 am
by greenback44
G. Keenan wrote:So we just traded Ryan Ludwick for Jake Westbrook. Ouch.
Compare that to the other pitcher deals out there.
La Russa has been wanting to deal Ludwick since 2008. He finally got his way.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:05 am
by Magneto2.0
'10 Cardinals may be the canonical example of Sheehan's Trade Deadline Axiom: no matter what teams need, they all think they need pitching.
LOL
Mo needs to get a M.I. so I wont cry..
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:06 am
by InvincibleCakeEater
You guys worry too much. Jon Jay's .446 BABIP is completely sustainable.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:07 am
by go birds
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:07 am
by Bo Hart
JL21 wrote:Luddy was probably going to cost too much for them in 2011. Still, a weird deal.
Maybe he was, but there's still value to that control for another team then, right? This was the best we can do? I hate to sound Cards Talk-ish here, but this is pathetic.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:08 am
by Fan_In_NY
Well i guess the one benefit is that there is more money that can go to Albert's salary. And getting an mid level OF free agent in the offseason tends to come cheap in terms of $$. All I know is that Colby is on notice...he needs to be a solid #5 hitter now.
Re: P.6 Ludwick to SD; Westbrook and Pads prospect to STL
Posted: July 31 10, 11:08 am
by sighyoung
There has to be a Nicholas Greenwood-Montana Fishburne porn tape being thrown in on this deal.