Interesting Weaver article

Elphie15 · Post by **Elphie15** » February 28 07, 6:13 pm

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... cation=rss

Some of Spiezio's comments at the end were very interesting

Phyrkrakr · Post by **Phyrkrakr** » February 28 07, 6:58 pm

Good to know we have Speezer sold on StL:

"Yeah, I'm very surprised because I told him not to go there," Spiezio said. "I flat-out told him he was going to hate it. I don't know what he was thinking. Based on my experience, he will hate it. He'll hate everything about it.

"It's a pitcher's park, that's for sure. But part of the whole deal here [with St. Louis], we have the fans behind us, we have a front office that wants to win, and teammates that play hard and are team players. None of the above are over there."

vinsanity · Post by **vinsanity** » February 28 07, 7:46 pm

Spiezio's bitterness over his time in Seattle — which might carry more weight had he not performed so poorly — spilled forth Saturday when asked if he was surprised Weaver left the Cardinals to sign with the Mariners.

Which came first the chicken or the egg? Maybe he performed poorly in a pitchers park with a poor environment? Or did he not like it cause he performed poorly?

I know which basket has my eggs.

Ace · Post by **Ace** » February 28 07, 7:53 pm

vinsanity wrote:
Spiezio's bitterness over his time in Seattle — which might carry more weight had he not performed so poorly — spilled forth Saturday when asked if he was surprised Weaver left the Cardinals to sign with the Mariners.
Which came first the chicken or the egg? Maybe he performed poorly in a pitchers park with a poor environment? Or did he not like it cause he performed poorly?

I know which basket has my eggs.

I'll buy what Speez is selling. He has always been a clutch performer, able to rise to the occasion. Thats why he has been so impressive in the playoffs. He seems to be one of those guys that need motivation from the fans and the front office, nothing wrong with that. Just needed to come to the right team.

Team · Post by **Team** » February 28 07, 7:53 pm

As bad a speez played in Seattle, I'm guessing this isn't going to sound like much to many M's fans

Schlich · Post by **Schlich** » February 28 07, 8:29 pm

"The fact is, they weren't even close," Boras told the Post-Dispatch. "Jeff gave St. Louis every opportunity. We let them know what Jeff's market was. Their response was to make an offer literally appropriate for a relief pitcher."

According to the newspaper, the Cardinals' offer was slightly more than a $5 million guarantee plus appearance incentives. It is believed they also presented a two-year proposal.

thats a pretty dang good relief pitcher

Secret Weapon · Post by **Secret Weapon** » February 28 07, 8:47 pm

RxOfCowbell wrote:
"The fact is, they weren't even close," Boras told the Post-Dispatch. "Jeff gave St. Louis every opportunity. We let them know what Jeff's market was. Their response was to make an offer literally appropriate for a relief pitcher."

According to the newspaper, the Cardinals' offer was slightly more than a $5 million guarantee plus appearance incentives. It is believed they also presented a two-year proposal.
thats a pretty dang good relief pitcher

Well Looper is making 5 million this year, though I guess he is a starter now

Schlich · Post by **Schlich** » February 28 07, 8:55 pm

haha. that doesnt undermine the fact that he's overpaid.

But how many relief pitchers (not closers) make 5 mil a year?

Richie Allen · Post by **Richie Allen** » February 28 07, 9:14 pm

Yes. The story should focus on how Weaver was able to avoid a pay cut despite turning in a 8-14 year with a 5.76 ERA. Even his good half of the season, with the Cardinals, was not worthy of earning that size contract.

Post by **Michael** » February 28 07, 10:44 pm

I'm disappointed the Cards didn't pony up a few more million. It's only a one year deal.