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How many Hall of Famers are playing now?
Posted: March 26 07, 12:17 pm
by valley_card22
We had this talk at work during lunch. How many guys are HOF right now. I mean are we going through another Golden Age? It just seems that there are a lot of guys getting those words thrown around. Heres the list we came up with. BL means boarderline HOF. Assume players keep their average stats for rest of their careers. Guys in their 2 or 3rd year are left off.
Yankees: Marino RIveria, Jeter, ARod
Red Sox: Schilling (BL), Manny
Tampa:
Bal: Sosa (BL)
Toronto: Halladay (I said Hall of Very Good, the group said BL),Frank Thomas
White Sox:
Indians
Royals:
Twins: Santanta,
A's: Mike Piazzia
Angels: Vlad
Seattle: Ichiro (BL)
Texas:
NL
Atlanta: Andruw Jones (BL), Chipper Jones (BL) John Smoltz
Mets: Pedro
Was:
FL:
Philly:
STL: Pujols, Edmonds (BL), Rolen (BL)
CHI: Soreino (BL..if he keeps his pace he'll be in)
Pitt:
Cinncy: Junior Griffey (once a lock, hes still prolly in)
Hou: Biggio
Mil:
SF: BOnds (GRRRRRRRRR)
LAD:
SF: Madduz. Hoffman
Az: Johnson
25 guys. Is that number to high or to low? What do ya think?
Posted: March 26 07, 12:21 pm
by ToughGuy_BlueShirt
It seems very high, but you can make a strong case for pretty much everyone you named. I think Sosa and Edmonds are pretty big ifs, but I can see them get in. Soriano, maybe, but he's going to have to do a lot more imo.
(SD: Maddux)
Posted: March 26 07, 12:22 pm
by valley_card22
Left out Tom Glavine.....hes a HOF
Posted: March 26 07, 12:23 pm
by stlmark
How about:
Jim Thome
Miguel Tejada
Posted: March 26 07, 12:23 pm
by vance
Pudge Rodriguez will get in. Piazza as well.
Posted: March 26 07, 12:24 pm
by vance
Furthermore, with Santan, it's way too early to tell.
Posted: March 26 07, 12:25 pm
by Fat Strat
I've added some possibilities to your list, most of which are still too young to be in talking HOF, but they are on their way, if they continue producing like they're producing. I put my additions in bold
Yankees: Marino RIveria, Jeter, ARod, Mike Mussina
Red Sox: Schilling (BL), Manny,
Tampa: Carl Crawford
Bal: Sosa (BL), Miguel Tejada
Toronto: Halladay (I said Hall of Very Good, the group said BL),Frank Thomas
White Sox:
Indians: Travis Hafner, Grady Sizemore
Royals:
Twins: Santana,
A's: Mike Piazza
Angels: Vlad
Seattle: Ichiro (BL)
Texas: Michael Young, Mark Teixeira
NL
Atlanta: Andruw Jones (BL), Chipper Jones (BL) John Smoltz
Mets: Pedro
Was:
FL: Miguel Cabrera
Philly: Chase Utley, Ryan Howard
STL: Pujols, Edmonds (BL), Rolen (BL)
CHI: Soriano (BL..if he keeps his pace he'll be in)
Pitt:
Cinncy: Junior Griffey (once a lock, hes still prolly in)
Hou: Biggio
Mil:
SF: Bonds (GRRRRRRRRR)
LAD: Jeff Kent
SD: Madduz. Hoffman
Az: Johnson, Webb
Obviously some of those players have a long way to go, but they all have the ability to end up in Cooperstown one day.
Posted: March 26 07, 12:31 pm
by vance
I don't think Edmonds makes it.
He's very similar to Bernie Williams, and I wouldn't put Williams on the list.
Edmonds has a 289/382/539 line with 350 HR, 1068 RBI, and 1115 R. He was a four time all-star and his highest MVP rank was fifth.
Williams has a 297/381/477 line with 289 HR, 1257 RBI, and 1366 R. He was a five time all-star and his highest MVP rank was seventh.
I don't think either distinguishes himself enough to make the HOF.
Posted: March 26 07, 12:33 pm
by cardinalkarp
vance wrote:I don't think Edmonds makes it.
He's very similar to Bernie Williams, and I wouldn't put Williams on the list.
Edmonds has a 289/382/539 line with 350 HR, 1068 RBI, and 1115 R. He was a four time all-star and his highest MVP rank was fifth.
Williams has a 297/381/477 line with 289 HR, 1257 RBI, and 1366 R. He was a five time all-star and his highest MVP rank was seventh.
I don't think either distinguishes himself enough to make the HOF.
I think the one MAJOR thing about Edmonds you failed to show is his phenominal defense (I think he's at 8 or 9 gold gloves).
Posted: March 26 07, 12:35 pm
by vance
cardinalkarp wrote:vance wrote:I don't think Edmonds makes it.
He's very similar to Bernie Williams, and I wouldn't put Williams on the list.
Edmonds has a 289/382/539 line with 350 HR, 1068 RBI, and 1115 R. He was a four time all-star and his highest MVP rank was fifth.
Williams has a 297/381/477 line with 289 HR, 1257 RBI, and 1366 R. He was a five time all-star and his highest MVP rank was seventh.
I don't think either distinguishes himself enough to make the HOF.
I think the one MAJOR thing about Edmonds you failed to show is his phenominal defense (I think he's at 8 or 9 gold gloves).
Edmonds has eight; Bernie has four. I'm not sure that's enough to distinguish him above Williams.