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Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:03 pm
by jim
What a disappointment last night.

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:06 pm
by cardinalkarp
jim wrote:What a disappointment last night.
It wasn't really in HD though, those damn black bars :x

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:09 pm
by jim
cardinalkarp wrote:
jim wrote:What a disappointment last night.
It wasn't really in HD though, those damn black bars :x
They advertised it as such. I saw the CBSHD in the corner.

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:16 pm
by Popeye_Card
You can't show something in HD if it wasn't recorded in HD.

The corner logo is always on the HD channels, whether the program is in HD or not. It's the channel's logo.

--P--

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:25 pm
by jim
Popeye_Card wrote:You can't show something in HD if it wasn't recorded in HD.

The corner logo is always on the HD channels, whether the program is in HD or not. It's the channel's logo.

--P--
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 3:33 pm
by Popeye_Card
jim wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:You can't show something in HD if it wasn't recorded in HD.

The corner logo is always on the HD channels, whether the program is in HD or not. It's the channel's logo.

--P--
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?
Not really. You can only enhance it so much. HD is a whole new level of quality. You have to consider that even normal DVD's aren't HD quality.

--P--

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 5 07, 9:25 pm
by AdmiralKird
Popeye_Card wrote:
jim wrote:
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?
Not really. You can only enhance it so much. HD is a whole new level of quality. You have to consider that even normal DVD's aren't HD quality.

--P--
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointment Popeye, but that statement is flat out untrue. All movies shot in 35mm can be turned into HD from the original negatives. Infact, the 35mm reels are even higher definition than 1080p (or future 1440p). Its fairly straightforward to pull movies into an HD format as the entire film is already in a single 35mm reel for theater viewing. Editors digitize the entire reel and then clean up artifacts and have a finished product. It gets harder for TV episodes, as most are only edited in SD quality, and not 35mm. However, I believe they might be turning some old Star Trek episodes into HD, where they go back to the original unedited negatives, taking the 35mm and recutting everything to match what the original editors did.

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 6 07, 9:15 am
by maddash
AdmiralKird wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
jim wrote:
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?
Not really. You can only enhance it so much. HD is a whole new level of quality. You have to consider that even normal DVD's aren't HD quality.

--P--
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointment Popeye, but that statement is flat out untrue. All movies shot in 35mm can be turned into HD from the original negatives. Infact, the 35mm reels are even higher definition than 1080p (or future 1440p). Its fairly straightforward to pull movies into an HD format as the entire film is already in a single 35mm reel for theater viewing. Editors digitize the entire reel and then clean up artifacts and have a finished product. It gets harder for TV episodes, as most are only edited in SD quality, and not 35mm. However, I believe they might be turning some old Star Trek episodes into HD, where they go back to the original unedited negatives, taking the 35mm and recutting everything to match what the original editors did.
Isn't Seinfeld - which was shot on 35mm - now being syndicated in HD?

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 6 07, 4:07 pm
by paskal
maddash wrote:
AdmiralKird wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
jim wrote:
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?
Not really. You can only enhance it so much. HD is a whole new level of quality. You have to consider that even normal DVD's aren't HD quality.

--P--
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointment Popeye, but that statement is flat out untrue. All movies shot in 35mm can be turned into HD from the original negatives. Infact, the 35mm reels are even higher definition than 1080p (or future 1440p). Its fairly straightforward to pull movies into an HD format as the entire film is already in a single 35mm reel for theater viewing. Editors digitize the entire reel and then clean up artifacts and have a finished product. It gets harder for TV episodes, as most are only edited in SD quality, and not 35mm. However, I believe they might be turning some old Star Trek episodes into HD, where they go back to the original unedited negatives, taking the 35mm and recutting everything to match what the original editors did.
Isn't Seinfeld - which was shot on 35mm - now being syndicated in HD?
Sony did the remastering, and I heard they're offering it, but the problem is that many of the stations that do syndicate Seinfeld don't broadcast in HD (the one in LA doesn't, anyway).

Re: Rudolph in HDTV

Posted: December 7 07, 9:50 am
by Popeye_Card
AdmiralKird wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
jim wrote:
I thought they digitally remastered it, and if you can digitally remaster (i.e. change) something you can't turn it to HD?
Not really. You can only enhance it so much. HD is a whole new level of quality. You have to consider that even normal DVD's aren't HD quality.

--P--
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointment Popeye, but that statement is flat out untrue. All movies shot in 35mm can be turned into HD from the original negatives. Infact, the 35mm reels are even higher definition than 1080p (or future 1440p). Its fairly straightforward to pull movies into an HD format as the entire film is already in a single 35mm reel for theater viewing. Editors digitize the entire reel and then clean up artifacts and have a finished product. It gets harder for TV episodes, as most are only edited in SD quality, and not 35mm. However, I believe they might be turning some old Star Trek episodes into HD, where they go back to the original unedited negatives, taking the 35mm and recutting everything to match what the original editors did.
Consider me stupid. I thought HD needed to be shot in digital format. I didn't think a stop-motion feature like Rudolph could be dressed up all that much, even if it was shot with 35mm film.

--P--