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Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 15 15, 5:21 pm
by jim
1. Alex Reyes (Fastball 80, Curve 65, Change 50, Control 45).
2. Tim Cooney, LHP
3. Jack Flaherty, RHP
4. Luke Weaver, RHP
5. Marco Gonzales, LHP
6. Magneuris Sierra, OF
7. Edmund Sosa, SS
8. Nick Plummer, OF
9. Junior Fernandez, RHP
10. Carson Kelly, C

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 16 15, 8:35 am
by go birds
I know Sierra was on some watch lists last year--how is he progressing?

And who is Junior Fernandez?

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 16 15, 1:55 pm
by phins
go birds wrote:I know Sierra was on some watch lists last year--how is he progressing?

And who is Junior Fernandez?
Big money international guy. Was deemed the top international starting pitcher outside of Cuba last year. I think we got him for a pretty cheap price though. He's a MOR type of guy. Good to see Sosa get some love- I've been quite high on him for a while now. I'd probably take Flaherty, Weaver, Gonzales over Cooney, but no major quibbles there. Cooney is ready for the big leagues now. Carson Kelly is a guy you just can't quit, but his bat has not come around at all.

There are others I'd put over him at this point I think, but I haven't sat down and really thought it through yet either.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 16 15, 11:50 pm
by Woolkins
Cooney at #2 surprises me, do they traditionally give more value to major league closeness? And if so, why isn't Tuivailala on the list? I assume relief only prospects aren't valued highly.

Charlie Tilson is another that's close to majors, could proabably provide at least a few years of productive years as a starting CF. I don't know if there's a window to do so for us, but would make a heck of a 4th OF. Aledmys Diaz has an argument also, but maybe I'm weighing most recent success too much.

Also like Harrison Bader and Austin Gomber as possible top ten inclusions.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 16 15, 11:59 pm
by Woolkins
phins wrote:Carson Kelly is a guy you just can't quit, but his bat has not come around at all.
I wonder if it's common for Baseball America to put more value based on organization needs. I don't know if Kelly belongs in the top ten, but for purposes of future needs, his development might be the most important of any prospect in the system. Same could be said about Sosa, but his inclusion is warranted regardless of future team needs.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 18 15, 5:05 pm
by jim
Woolkins wrote:Cooney at #2 surprises me, do they traditionally give more value to major league closeness? And if so, why isn't Tuivailala on the list? I assume relief only prospects aren't valued highly.

Charlie Tilson is another that's close to majors, could proabably provide at least a few years of productive years as a starting CF. I don't know if there's a window to do so for us, but would make a heck of a 4th OF. Aledmys Diaz has an argument also, but maybe I'm weighing most recent success too much.

Also like Harrison Bader and Austin Gomber as possible top ten inclusions.
Typically the way BA does it is to factor in what they call "Risk". That is risk of meeting their projected grades - or their potential. Cooney will have very low risk, so it will cause his rating to rise.

Tilson and Diaz I view both as role players. I'm looking forward to seeing Sosa in Peoria this year.

This is a deep system, with one potential star.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 18 15, 5:26 pm
by go birds
star as in Reyes or Sosa?

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 19 15, 6:59 am
by Swirls
Definitely Reyes. But Sierra and Sosa are looking very good so far.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: November 19 15, 8:31 am
by go birds
yea thats what i figured, but a lot of people are pretty high on sosa.

man thatd be awesome if we could develop a good SS.

Re: Cards Top 10 (Baseball America)

Posted: December 8 15, 7:34 pm
by jim