Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
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Randall Pink
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Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
.270 with 8 and 28. 128 OPS+. They got virtually nothing in return and are still paying the bulk of his salary. Major mistake?
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
Welcome to the board, Randall.
I don't think we can assume he'd have the same numbers if he stayed here. I also think that giving the younger players space to be themselves has led to a good bit of the new energy we're seeing this season.
It's a bummer that we didn't get more of vintage Arenado, but it was time for him to move on. I'm happy that he's having some success again, but I'm enjoying watching the kids play this year.
I don't think we can assume he'd have the same numbers if he stayed here. I also think that giving the younger players space to be themselves has led to a good bit of the new energy we're seeing this season.
It's a bummer that we didn't get more of vintage Arenado, but it was time for him to move on. I'm happy that he's having some success again, but I'm enjoying watching the kids play this year.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
.682 OPS on the road vs. .960 at home. My guess is that if he were still a Cardinal, he’d still be looking approximately like the 2024 and 2026 versions.
Which yes, is still better than Gorman.
Which yes, is still better than Gorman.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
And I suppose I could play the “what if” game with Donny as well but the difference obviously is the quality of prospect Cijntje is compared to Jack Martinez.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
If we had kept Arenado, would we be starting Gorman at second base all year to "give him a look to see what we have" and keep JJ in the minors so he'd get regular playing time? It seems like that would've been the case.
It's an interesting Sliding Doors question, because if JJ continues his trajectory to ROY, the Cardinals get an extra pick after the first round. That's a valuable thing.
It's an interesting Sliding Doors question, because if JJ continues his trajectory to ROY, the Cardinals get an extra pick after the first round. That's a valuable thing.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
and then we can draft the new Gormanheyzeus wrote: ↑June 2 26, 2:52 pmIf we had kept Arenado, would we be starting Gorman at second base all year to "give him a look to see what we have" and keep JJ in the minors so he'd get regular playing time? It seems like that would've been the case.
It's an interesting Sliding Doors question, because if JJ continues his trajectory to ROY, the Cardinals get an extra pick after the first round. That's a valuable thing.

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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
We would have a really good defensive third baseman but I don't think the offense would be there. Arizona is much more friendly to hitters.
I do think we might have seen a little better version of Nolan than last year just because I think he is healthier; but the change of hometown laundry is helping his bat the most.
I do think we might have seen a little better version of Nolan than last year just because I think he is healthier; but the change of hometown laundry is helping his bat the most.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
Most likely worse.
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Re: Where would the Cards be had they just held on to Arenado?
I lol'd. Perfect use of that gif.cardsfantx wrote: ↑June 2 26, 4:20 pmand then we can draft the new Gormanheyzeus wrote: ↑June 2 26, 2:52 pmIf we had kept Arenado, would we be starting Gorman at second base all year to "give him a look to see what we have" and keep JJ in the minors so he'd get regular playing time? It seems like that would've been the case.
It's an interesting Sliding Doors question, because if JJ continues his trajectory to ROY, the Cardinals get an extra pick after the first round. That's a valuable thing.
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